1 00:00:27,409 --> 00:00:07,820 [Music] 2 00:00:31,479 --> 00:00:27,419 you were in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:35,170 --> 00:00:31,489 standard of paranormal radio and now 4 00:00:38,180 --> 00:00:35,180 here's Jean Steinberg 5 00:00:40,549 --> 00:00:38,190 my neighbors first my reminds you that 6 00:00:43,490 --> 00:00:40,559 para Casas brought to you this week by 7 00:00:45,580 --> 00:00:43,500 audible.com the internet's leading 8 00:00:48,319 --> 00:00:45,590 provider of audiobooks with more than 9 00:00:50,060 --> 00:00:48,329 85,000 downloadable titles across all 10 00:00:53,210 --> 00:00:50,070 types of literature including fiction 11 00:00:56,090 --> 00:00:53,220 nonfiction and periodicals for free 12 00:01:00,649 --> 00:00:56,100 audio book of your choice go to audible 13 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:00,659 podcast.com slash para cast so let's 14 00:01:05,540 --> 00:01:03,600 take a look at the background of today's 15 00:01:08,690 --> 00:01:05,550 show before it begins and I have to tell 16 00:01:10,580 --> 00:01:08,700 you in advance as usual we posted a 17 00:01:13,070 --> 00:01:10,590 section in the question Bank format our 18 00:01:14,930 --> 00:01:13,080 forums had formed at the para cast come 19 00:01:17,690 --> 00:01:14,940 asking our listeners if they had a 20 00:01:19,130 --> 00:01:17,700 question of our guest Aaron Kaplan and 21 00:01:21,230 --> 00:01:19,140 there's a lot of skepticism out there 22 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:21,240 I've tell you that right in advance and 23 00:01:24,859 --> 00:01:23,250 we're gonna have a lot of questions to 24 00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:24,869 ask when he joins us shortly 25 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:28,320 but basically Aaron Kaplan is author of 26 00:01:32,630 --> 00:01:30,690 a book called deep analysis frightening 27 00:01:33,919 --> 00:01:32,640 conclusion normally we get a lot of 28 00:01:35,809 --> 00:01:33,929 letters from people who have written 29 00:01:38,510 --> 00:01:35,819 books they say has all the answers 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:38,520 in this case I was interested for two 31 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:40,170 reasons having nothing to do with the 32 00:01:44,330 --> 00:01:41,970 paranormal one his name 33 00:01:45,499 --> 00:01:44,340 Kaplan my wife's maiden name is Kaplan I 34 00:01:48,260 --> 00:01:45,509 don't think there's any relationship 35 00:01:51,170 --> 00:01:48,270 because Kaplan in the northeast part of 36 00:01:54,260 --> 00:01:51,180 the USA is very common name a second 37 00:01:56,149 --> 00:01:54,270 Erin Kaplan our guest and I we went to 38 00:01:58,190 --> 00:01:56,159 the same high school in different years 39 00:01:59,090 --> 00:01:58,200 so there is kind of a crazy quilt 40 00:02:01,069 --> 00:01:59,100 connection there 41 00:02:02,780 --> 00:02:01,079 but doesn't mean that I'm going to react 42 00:02:04,670 --> 00:02:02,790 any more favorably to what he has to say 43 00:02:06,770 --> 00:02:04,680 so we'll go with that what do you think 44 00:02:10,039 --> 00:02:06,780 Chris nope I guess there's one way to 45 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:10,049 find out Jean yes there is we have Aaron 46 00:02:15,740 --> 00:02:13,170 Kaplan on the power cast now as I said 47 00:02:17,569 --> 00:02:15,750 before we brought on Aaron Kaplan I have 48 00:02:19,940 --> 00:02:17,579 some things in common with him which he 49 00:02:21,819 --> 00:02:19,950 doesn't know about yet but Aaron I want 50 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:21,829 to welcome you first to the power cast 51 00:02:27,979 --> 00:02:25,410 okay Aaron your last name Kaplan my 52 00:02:29,539 --> 00:02:27,989 wife's maiden name is Kaplan but I do 53 00:02:31,009 --> 00:02:29,549 not think we're related because Kaplan 54 00:02:33,199 --> 00:02:31,019 is a pretty common name in that part of 55 00:02:38,750 --> 00:02:33,209 the country I go out with an Esther 56 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:38,760 Kaplan yes that she was a hottie okay 57 00:02:46,550 --> 00:02:41,450 and the other thing is you 58 00:02:48,020 --> 00:02:46,560 you went up and out of it okay the other 59 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:48,030 thing Aaron is you and I went to the 60 00:02:52,220 --> 00:02:48,810 same high school 61 00:02:53,979 --> 00:02:52,230 Oh Oh what here I can't say that you 62 00:02:56,390 --> 00:02:53,989 know I I think it was in the dark ages 63 00:02:58,009 --> 00:02:56,400 you know I actually lived I used to live 64 00:03:00,020 --> 00:02:58,019 in Terra Nova that's that place you see 65 00:03:06,890 --> 00:03:00,030 in the TV show where they go back 85 66 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:06,900 million years okay okay so that's our 67 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:09,690 connection but the real question we have 68 00:03:14,420 --> 00:03:12,450 Aaron is before we talk about your book 69 00:03:15,910 --> 00:03:14,430 and your conclusions tell our listeners 70 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:15,920 something if your background how you 71 00:03:20,630 --> 00:03:18,330 came from the point you left 72 00:03:22,910 --> 00:03:20,640 SJ Tilton High School in Brooklyn till 73 00:03:24,920 --> 00:03:22,920 now tell us about a little bit about 74 00:03:28,850 --> 00:03:24,930 your life and what got you interested in 75 00:03:31,100 --> 00:03:28,860 paranormal subjects aircraft and I grew 76 00:03:33,350 --> 00:03:31,110 up in Israel AC belong to Flying Club he 77 00:03:36,229 --> 00:03:33,360 supplied gliders you know there's no kid 78 00:03:37,759 --> 00:03:36,239 12 13 14 years old and I said a lot of 79 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:37,769 fun I used to watch a lot of sci-fi 80 00:03:44,509 --> 00:03:42,450 movies most favorite was you know the 81 00:03:46,940 --> 00:03:44,519 beautiful spaceman with the duo the 82 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:46,950 Forbidden Planet is to love it and some 83 00:03:51,319 --> 00:03:48,690 old intrigue me what's going on 84 00:03:54,289 --> 00:03:51,329 when I came here and I graduated high 85 00:03:56,390 --> 00:03:54,299 school I started to go to school 86 00:03:58,720 --> 00:03:56,400 watching New York called the Academy of 87 00:04:02,289 --> 00:03:58,730 aeronautics 88 00:04:05,990 --> 00:04:02,299 aerospace college to graduate in 67 89 00:04:07,729 --> 00:04:06,000 between the two schools first I used to 90 00:04:11,629 --> 00:04:07,739 go to meeting what I want to mini 91 00:04:15,170 --> 00:04:11,639 Manhattan a new fun meeting remember the 92 00:04:16,699 --> 00:04:15,180 old name bubble so forth 93 00:04:19,069 --> 00:04:16,709 let meaning to Manhattan which showed 94 00:04:21,590 --> 00:04:19,079 you where yeah I think again couple of 95 00:04:24,260 --> 00:04:21,600 things mixed up here in the 60s there 96 00:04:26,390 --> 00:04:24,270 was I think a mutual UFO network did 97 00:04:27,950 --> 00:04:26,400 start in the 60s but there was also a 98 00:04:30,020 --> 00:04:27,960 group called CSI of New York at that 99 00:04:32,089 --> 00:04:30,030 time and of course Project Blue Book was 100 00:04:34,070 --> 00:04:32,099 the Air Force's Project so I'm kind of 101 00:04:36,260 --> 00:04:34,080 confused here what you meant exactly 102 00:04:37,550 --> 00:04:36,270 yeah go like 17 18 years old so I 103 00:04:39,830 --> 00:04:37,560 couldn't give you the exact name but you 104 00:04:41,420 --> 00:04:39,840 belong to one of those clubs and I went 105 00:04:43,909 --> 00:04:41,430 to Manhattan to see the show go to 106 00:04:46,010 --> 00:04:43,919 movies one eight millimeter and 116 107 00:04:48,350 --> 00:04:46,020 million in the movies once you're on 108 00:04:50,630 --> 00:04:48,360 this five you remember this fiber a 109 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:50,640 plane to a mystery of the Bermuda 110 00:04:54,770 --> 00:04:53,490 Triangle so forth we watch that 111 00:04:58,460 --> 00:04:54,780 technical show 112 00:05:01,400 --> 00:04:58,470 we related to Roswell but that was a I 113 00:05:03,890 --> 00:05:01,410 remember very well not 16-millimeter but 114 00:05:06,710 --> 00:05:03,900 in a gloom in a movie which was taken by 115 00:05:10,490 --> 00:05:06,720 a little Piper Cubs from the to perform 116 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:10,500 in Roswell Russell Airport base now that 117 00:05:16,220 --> 00:05:14,010 movie was for real the movie that you're 118 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:16,230 seeing here this was a movie of the 119 00:05:24,159 --> 00:05:22,080 Roswell crash or what yes yes by US Air 120 00:05:26,510 --> 00:05:24,169 Force pilots Piper Cub 121 00:05:28,370 --> 00:05:26,520 flying over the cross sighs Colonel um 122 00:05:30,350 --> 00:05:28,380 do with not only one side there are more 123 00:05:33,470 --> 00:05:30,360 than one day between 7:00 and 9:00 crash 124 00:05:36,890 --> 00:05:33,480 sites all right now I'm explained so 125 00:05:40,070 --> 00:05:36,900 watching the movie two three times the 126 00:05:42,140 --> 00:05:40,080 reason we watch it more than once is one 127 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:42,150 guy to set up front of me and grow on a 128 00:05:47,630 --> 00:05:45,450 person asked the operator projector 129 00:05:53,300 --> 00:05:47,640 certain please run it one more time so 130 00:05:56,930 --> 00:05:53,310 we did then and I said stop run it again 131 00:05:58,730 --> 00:05:56,940 the guy was running it the newspaper man 132 00:06:00,800 --> 00:05:58,740 in the movie whose channel 133 00:06:02,690 --> 00:06:00,810 he was verse silent movie no voice but 134 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:02,700 you can see the little pilot moving on 135 00:06:07,370 --> 00:06:04,530 the ground when he was interviewed and 136 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:07,380 the men of the audience gets up and 137 00:06:11,300 --> 00:06:09,090 actually says the words our pilot he 138 00:06:13,130 --> 00:06:11,310 says you see it matching his looks 139 00:06:15,650 --> 00:06:13,140 movement it said this has happened 140 00:06:19,190 --> 00:06:15,660 between eight and nine areas to my 141 00:06:20,630 --> 00:06:19,200 knowledge the last 48 hours okay so 142 00:06:25,130 --> 00:06:20,640 apparently this is like a hodgepodge 143 00:06:29,029 --> 00:06:25,140 movie that you can't find anymore it 144 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:29,039 slipped out okay so let me let me praise 145 00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:32,130 him like yeah I gotta say you you 146 00:06:35,719 --> 00:06:33,630 throwing me for a loop here buddy 147 00:06:43,820 --> 00:06:35,729 you're talking what what year was this 148 00:06:45,590 --> 00:06:43,830 about 1965 465 between high school 149 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:45,600 ecology let me throw something in the 150 00:06:49,010 --> 00:06:46,770 middle before Chris finishes this 151 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:49,020 question during those years 152 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:52,110 gee Mosely the editor and publisher of 153 00:06:58,990 --> 00:06:53,970 saucer news before it became saucer 154 00:07:02,659 --> 00:06:59,000 smear he used to hold weekly meetings 155 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:02,669 okay okay now okay now you therefore you 156 00:07:08,090 --> 00:07:05,250 and I might have met okay the key is 157 00:07:10,970 --> 00:07:08,100 here is that I distinctly 158 00:07:14,090 --> 00:07:10,980 member all those meetings all those 159 00:07:18,020 --> 00:07:14,100 sessions because I was there and I was 160 00:07:21,170 --> 00:07:18,030 part of Jim's helping crew or volunteers 161 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:21,180 that was a young volunteer okay the 162 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:24,240 problem is I do not remember any such 163 00:07:29,450 --> 00:07:26,760 movie like this period don't remember 164 00:07:30,860 --> 00:07:29,460 any movie like this in fact I don't 165 00:07:33,590 --> 00:07:30,870 remember that we ever talked about 166 00:07:35,690 --> 00:07:33,600 Roswell period never happened I have no 167 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:35,700 memory of this and I went to those 168 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:37,410 meetings so you've got to explain it 169 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:39,570 must be a different meeting no one 170 00:07:43,550 --> 00:07:41,730 meeting it was one to the hotel room 171 00:07:45,650 --> 00:07:43,560 Church in the middle and with two moves 172 00:07:48,740 --> 00:07:45,660 shown wuzzle one was 16-millimeter I'm 173 00:07:52,580 --> 00:07:48,750 pretty sure I remember projector and the 174 00:07:54,380 --> 00:07:52,590 movie was about the Bermuda Triangle was 175 00:07:55,940 --> 00:07:54,390 fired missing playing the forgot the 176 00:07:58,450 --> 00:07:55,950 exact name of the plane that's not 177 00:08:00,770 --> 00:07:58,460 important then another movie was shown 178 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:00,780 but then another was a different 179 00:08:08,030 --> 00:08:04,410 projector was a canoeing in a movie and 180 00:08:10,460 --> 00:08:08,040 that's one that that occurs to place but 181 00:08:11,990 --> 00:08:10,470 I understand but it was not at a saucer 182 00:08:14,540 --> 00:08:12,000 news meeting I can guarantee you that 183 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:14,550 because of that information had come 184 00:08:18,890 --> 00:08:17,010 about at a saucer news meeting number 185 00:08:20,810 --> 00:08:18,900 one I was at most of those meetings so I 186 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:20,820 would have seen it number two because I 187 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:22,770 was helping Jim Mosely in the editing of 188 00:08:27,950 --> 00:08:24,810 saucer news there would have been 189 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:27,960 coverage there was no coverage so yeah 190 00:08:31,790 --> 00:08:30,150 maybe there was a meeting in New York at 191 00:08:33,800 --> 00:08:31,800 that time I can't obviously vouch for 192 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:33,810 all meetings that were held but it 193 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:37,410 wasn't a saucer news the news remember 194 00:08:43,550 --> 00:08:39,930 was very young there was 17 I mean you 195 00:08:46,610 --> 00:08:43,560 know yeah roughly 17 18 years old don't 196 00:08:49,940 --> 00:08:46,620 remember the exact name all I know I 197 00:08:53,630 --> 00:08:49,950 joined those those clubs and while 198 00:08:55,730 --> 00:08:53,640 giving the road to Manhattan in a hotel 199 00:08:57,110 --> 00:08:55,740 room that's not a tutorial but like a 200 00:08:59,810 --> 00:08:57,120 big rental you know like a big meeting 201 00:09:02,530 --> 00:08:59,820 room sure that was very common in those 202 00:09:06,140 --> 00:09:02,540 days where organizations would rent a 203 00:09:07,220 --> 00:09:06,150 meeting room usually a mid-level hotel 204 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:07,230 of course because they couldn't afford 205 00:09:13,100 --> 00:09:10,170 to go to story or something like that 206 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:13,110 the Waldorf Astoria obviously was too 207 00:09:15,929 --> 00:09:14,970 expensive for them so they had to go to 208 00:09:18,509 --> 00:09:15,939 a more 209 00:09:21,599 --> 00:09:18,519 economical venue now the other 210 00:09:24,119 --> 00:09:21,609 possibility would be Tim Beckley held 211 00:09:25,619 --> 00:09:24,129 meetings to but he was even younger I 212 00:09:27,210 --> 00:09:25,629 don't think he was holding meetings to 213 00:09:29,369 --> 00:09:27,220 that particular point in time so all 214 00:09:31,139 --> 00:09:29,379 right so let's assume then this was a 215 00:09:34,199 --> 00:09:31,149 different meeting that you saw these 216 00:09:36,179 --> 00:09:34,209 films did you attempt at any time to 217 00:09:38,219 --> 00:09:36,189 follow up on this to find out exactly 218 00:09:39,359 --> 00:09:38,229 what was happening before you answer 219 00:09:41,729 --> 00:09:39,369 that question I have to tell our 220 00:09:44,489 --> 00:09:41,739 listeners our guest is Aaron Kaplan the 221 00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:44,499 book is called deep analysis frightening 222 00:09:49,309 --> 00:09:46,720 conclusion and we're going to the 223 00:09:52,319 --> 00:09:49,319 background now of Aaron's history 224 00:09:53,939 --> 00:09:52,329 discovering the UFO mystery I'm Jean 225 00:09:57,050 --> 00:09:53,949 Steinberg the co-host is Chris O'Brien 226 00:10:03,749 --> 00:09:57,060 you're in the para cast 227 00:10:07,629 --> 00:10:06,100 as you know the para 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to download direct from the para 327 00:14:32,300 --> 00:14:27,209 cast com 328 00:14:35,330 --> 00:14:32,310 that's the para cast dot-com or check us 329 00:14:38,540 --> 00:14:35,340 out at iTunes 330 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:38,550 we're back with Aaron Kaplan the book 331 00:14:42,769 --> 00:14:40,410 she's gonna be talking about is deep 332 00:14:45,050 --> 00:14:42,779 analysis frightening conclusion but 333 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:45,060 first we go back to New York City in the 334 00:14:53,269 --> 00:14:48,690 mid-1960s in the borough of Manhattan 335 00:14:55,550 --> 00:14:53,279 where Aaron attends a meeting a UFO Club 336 00:14:58,250 --> 00:14:55,560 or something where they show two movies 337 00:15:01,430 --> 00:14:58,260 one of a Bermuda Triangle you know where 338 00:15:03,079 --> 00:15:01,440 in certain cases aircraft disappeared 339 00:15:06,410 --> 00:15:03,089 under supposedly mysterious 340 00:15:09,350 --> 00:15:06,420 circumstances and then another movie 341 00:15:11,630 --> 00:15:09,360 showing something about the crash at 342 00:15:13,820 --> 00:15:11,640 Roswell and other locations now after 343 00:15:15,410 --> 00:15:13,830 having seen this movie did you talk to 344 00:15:16,370 --> 00:15:15,420 the people who were showing it did you 345 00:15:19,130 --> 00:15:16,380 get any more information 346 00:15:21,530 --> 00:15:19,140 no I was too shy I just know I said a 347 00:15:23,090 --> 00:15:21,540 few minutes and one or two guys did ask 348 00:15:25,070 --> 00:15:23,100 questions there was one guy that 349 00:15:27,079 --> 00:15:25,080 remember distinctly slightly bald-headed 350 00:15:29,390 --> 00:15:27,089 her glasses watches very silly 351 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:29,400 I just walked out they just went on me 352 00:15:32,780 --> 00:15:31,110 you know I was very young 17 18 I wasn't 353 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:32,790 a professional ninjutsu student so 354 00:15:35,930 --> 00:15:34,050 didn't pay attention to what's going on 355 00:15:38,329 --> 00:15:35,940 around me but whatever the pilot said 356 00:15:40,850 --> 00:15:38,339 was moving and then we forgot that it 357 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:40,860 till Tuesday it stuck in me real deep ok 358 00:15:45,110 --> 00:15:42,930 so at what point did you say you know 359 00:15:47,540 --> 00:15:45,120 what this is something we need to follow 360 00:15:50,630 --> 00:15:47,550 up on where did you start to really 361 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:50,640 consider it seriously time you know my 362 00:15:54,380 --> 00:15:52,560 background was mostly aerospace I worked 363 00:15:56,329 --> 00:15:54,390 for the big companies like a retro 364 00:15:59,240 --> 00:15:56,339 public is coming to Long Island not a 365 00:16:01,460 --> 00:15:59,250 closed Grumman aerospace the f-14 f-111 366 00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:01,470 a to Sikorsky Aircraft the Connecticut 367 00:16:04,970 --> 00:16:02,880 factor with the jet engines we were 368 00:16:06,650 --> 00:16:04,980 super fast and so on either cooperation 369 00:16:08,870 --> 00:16:06,660 coach for New York or submarine warfare 370 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:08,880 for a Navy those people who lined it up 371 00:16:13,010 --> 00:16:10,530 when you work with his people his 372 00:16:15,170 --> 00:16:13,020 stories one person to another nothing 373 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:15,180 specific but I was always interested 374 00:16:19,460 --> 00:16:17,370 I used to listen very very closely to 375 00:16:21,650 --> 00:16:19,470 the core supports radio shows without 376 00:16:23,780 --> 00:16:21,660 Belfort and George Noory and I was 377 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:23,790 always very deeply in it do you by any 378 00:16:26,930 --> 00:16:24,510 chance 379 00:16:31,430 --> 00:16:26,940 Erin remember Long John Neville in the 380 00:16:33,740 --> 00:16:31,440 60s and 70s yeah okay okay because he's 381 00:16:36,170 --> 00:16:33,750 the pioneer of paranormal talk radio 382 00:16:37,850 --> 00:16:36,180 whenever we consider this subject on 383 00:16:39,980 --> 00:16:37,860 radio Long John Neville was the guy who 384 00:16:42,110 --> 00:16:39,990 invented it he invented the all night 385 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:42,120 talk show format and probably a lot of 386 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:43,890 the people who do talk shows today or 387 00:16:48,170 --> 00:16:45,930 something the long-term okay so you 388 00:16:48,710 --> 00:16:48,180 listen to the radio at what point did 389 00:16:51,860 --> 00:16:48,720 you start 390 00:16:54,470 --> 00:16:51,870 to do serious research after reading 391 00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:54,480 many books and listen to other programs 392 00:16:58,100 --> 00:16:57,120 each author this researcher says well my 393 00:16:59,689 --> 00:16:58,110 book has began 394 00:17:01,160 --> 00:16:59,699 I'm listening I'm listening I'm 395 00:17:03,889 --> 00:17:01,170 listening it's mind-boggling 396 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:03,899 I did not get an answer okay all the 397 00:17:07,850 --> 00:17:06,089 books let me hang it up in the air yeah 398 00:17:10,069 --> 00:17:07,860 again I'm really confused here because 399 00:17:12,890 --> 00:17:10,079 you know Charles Berlitz didn't coin the 400 00:17:15,559 --> 00:17:12,900 term Bermuda Triangle until the till 74 401 00:17:17,929 --> 00:17:15,569 75 and and Roswell wasn't on the map 402 00:17:20,929 --> 00:17:17,939 really until 80 so you know you're 403 00:17:23,329 --> 00:17:20,939 talking 65 year I mean you're 15 20 404 00:17:25,819 --> 00:17:23,339 years ahead of of when the public really 405 00:17:27,949 --> 00:17:25,829 was made aware of these subjects were 406 00:17:29,659 --> 00:17:27,959 even the terms you'll correct me if I'm 407 00:17:33,049 --> 00:17:29,669 wrong Jim it wasn't the Bermuda Triangle 408 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:33,059 wasn't that term coined by Berlitz in 409 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:35,970 the 70s I nubrella it's by the way okay 410 00:17:40,370 --> 00:17:38,850 and I advised him on some of the 411 00:17:42,049 --> 00:17:40,380 material he used in the book the 412 00:17:43,789 --> 00:17:42,059 Philadelphia Experiment all right I was 413 00:17:45,860 --> 00:17:43,799 one of his sources and I became friendly 414 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:45,870 with Birla so I know something about the 415 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:48,690 man and I have to tell you that no he 416 00:17:54,380 --> 00:17:51,510 didn't coin the term Chris there had 417 00:17:58,610 --> 00:17:54,390 been reports of strange goings-on in 418 00:18:01,430 --> 00:17:58,620 that region oh yeah of course but that 419 00:18:04,510 --> 00:18:01,440 term is not Berlitz his term not his 420 00:18:07,010 --> 00:18:04,520 invention it came out before then okay 421 00:18:09,260 --> 00:18:07,020 if you allow me I came to this country 422 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:09,270 in 19th in November of nineteen sixty 423 00:18:14,029 --> 00:18:11,490 and a few months after came here I 424 00:18:16,820 --> 00:18:14,039 remember distinctly the abduction of 425 00:18:19,100 --> 00:18:16,830 so-called burning Barney Hill tonight 426 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:19,110 I'll never forget never forget that I 427 00:18:24,049 --> 00:18:21,690 guess happen in September 22 96 you want 428 00:18:26,930 --> 00:18:24,059 and adore remembering exactly what they 429 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:26,940 said but I do told did a few couple of 430 00:18:31,549 --> 00:18:29,130 years later some doctor came out he was 431 00:18:33,710 --> 00:18:31,559 hired but here for doctoral Alan Hynek 432 00:18:35,539 --> 00:18:33,720 he was called to investigate certain 433 00:18:39,110 --> 00:18:35,549 production of certain sightings and 434 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:39,120 never forget this area of his words it 435 00:18:43,730 --> 00:18:41,010 really got me going when we spoke about 436 00:18:46,610 --> 00:18:43,740 a swamp yes and come on Michigan when I 437 00:18:47,930 --> 00:18:46,620 heard that okay young as I was then I 438 00:18:49,460 --> 00:18:47,940 just thought a college of thing it 439 00:18:51,289 --> 00:18:49,470 really gets me going was on your right 440 00:18:53,510 --> 00:18:51,299 there in that moment okay 441 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:53,520 that something is going on not only 442 00:18:58,010 --> 00:18:55,890 cover-up but it's way beyond the 443 00:18:59,899 --> 00:18:58,020 cover-up so yes at that time I started 444 00:19:02,060 --> 00:18:59,909 really you know getting into it and 445 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:02,070 we'll also remember from Barney Betty 446 00:19:04,669 --> 00:19:02,610 hill 447 00:19:07,460 --> 00:19:04,679 not at a time the big news came out a 448 00:19:09,259 --> 00:19:07,470 couple of years later I've got a careful 449 00:19:12,529 --> 00:19:09,269 you're very careful I'm gonna say now is 450 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:12,539 they mentioned doing the abducted on UFO 451 00:19:17,810 --> 00:19:15,090 or flying saucer or whatever it was 452 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:17,820 they're seeing some being inside the the 453 00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:20,970 spaceship first Betty hill claims heard 454 00:19:25,340 --> 00:19:23,039 him speak something she has some sort of 455 00:19:28,340 --> 00:19:25,350 a German German accent well it wasn't 456 00:19:30,769 --> 00:19:28,350 German exactly and they've also seen 457 00:19:33,710 --> 00:19:30,779 some other strange being on a spaceship 458 00:19:36,620 --> 00:19:33,720 but I do remember distinctly is a ready 459 00:19:38,870 --> 00:19:36,630 book and quote it's on the same flying 460 00:19:40,639 --> 00:19:38,880 saucer I'm just saying for us because 461 00:19:41,870 --> 00:19:40,649 I'm assuming that's what it was there 462 00:19:43,519 --> 00:19:41,880 was a woman standing in the middle 463 00:19:45,830 --> 00:19:43,529 between those so-called 464 00:19:48,590 --> 00:19:45,840 tall blondes the describing there 465 00:19:51,139 --> 00:19:48,600 described him as being tall plants and a 466 00:19:53,360 --> 00:19:51,149 few grazed in a background but the woman 467 00:19:56,029 --> 00:19:53,370 in a little okay she seemed to be very 468 00:19:58,430 --> 00:19:56,039 pretty you supported I mean in pure 469 00:20:00,529 --> 00:19:58,440 English again I gave a very careful 470 00:20:04,210 --> 00:20:00,539 we're gonna say now she said that her 471 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:04,220 name is Ishtar I know sounds very very 472 00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:08,250 blunt but after that happening in six to 473 00:20:14,210 --> 00:20:11,720 the mid seventies there was a very a 474 00:20:16,279 --> 00:20:14,220 famous writer called Zechariah chicken 475 00:20:19,070 --> 00:20:16,289 and his first book with the twelve 476 00:20:22,190 --> 00:20:19,080 planets I read the first book very 477 00:20:24,649 --> 00:20:22,200 thoroughly the rest of his books 478 00:20:28,519 --> 00:20:24,659 I got a glance true basically the same 479 00:20:31,190 --> 00:20:28,529 theme but his first book got me going to 480 00:20:38,169 --> 00:20:31,200 it was really going on it gave me the 481 00:20:45,620 --> 00:20:42,320 crashes so for the at Roswell and to his 482 00:20:48,139 --> 00:20:45,630 theme in his books the best way that can 483 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:48,149 describe what's really you know definite 484 00:20:51,740 --> 00:20:51,090 going into the subject you know Aaron 485 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:51,750 you're talking about 486 00:20:57,649 --> 00:20:54,090 zecharia sitchin in his book could 487 00:21:02,000 --> 00:20:57,659 twelve planet right but what's what's 488 00:21:04,070 --> 00:21:02,010 the connection here between Sumeria you 489 00:21:06,019 --> 00:21:04,080 know changing a couple words in Sumerian 490 00:21:09,019 --> 00:21:06,029 coming up with a whole new take on 491 00:21:12,169 --> 00:21:09,029 Sumerian legends and Roswell I don't I 492 00:21:13,669 --> 00:21:12,179 don't see the connect connection Oh what 493 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:13,679 do you hear this they can blow your mind 494 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:16,890 okay I'm playing you my boy 495 00:21:22,669 --> 00:21:20,610 my book is about DNA value the answer to 496 00:21:25,220 --> 00:21:22,679 my book right off the bat you want to do 497 00:21:30,190 --> 00:21:25,230 at the end the cause for the clash of 498 00:21:33,019 --> 00:21:30,200 rods will deliver not for D and a okay I 499 00:21:34,580 --> 00:21:33,029 know it sounds absurd but exact would 500 00:21:37,190 --> 00:21:34,590 have found out my deep research is 501 00:21:38,419 --> 00:21:37,200 phenomenal it's unbelievable alright how 502 00:21:41,539 --> 00:21:38,429 did you find this out 503 00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:41,549 so a lot of research a lot of research 504 00:21:49,930 --> 00:21:45,110 and one night the sitting and thinking 505 00:21:53,570 --> 00:21:49,940 came to me out of nowhere I went back 506 00:21:59,480 --> 00:21:53,580 researched the Ulster submitted the New 507 00:22:01,519 --> 00:21:59,490 Testament story of Noah when you know 508 00:22:06,379 --> 00:22:01,529 God called him he's the righteous person 509 00:22:09,049 --> 00:22:06,389 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Bible I don't know if I'm 636 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:34,800 understanding this would you explain 637 00:27:40,820 --> 00:27:38,810 further Aaron we ever crashes Roswell 638 00:27:43,370 --> 00:27:40,830 nobody knows why 639 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:43,380 well here's what happened there was a 640 00:27:51,130 --> 00:27:47,730 failed experiment basically those who 641 00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:51,140 follow the crash to the Roswell were not 642 00:27:59,180 --> 00:27:55,290 the Fallen Angels or the Nephilim they 643 00:28:02,180 --> 00:27:59,190 were piloted by the grades who were 644 00:28:05,380 --> 00:28:02,190 manufactured thousands or millions of 645 00:28:07,910 --> 00:28:05,390 years ago by a race called the Anunnaki 646 00:28:09,740 --> 00:28:07,920 which is very well described in the 647 00:28:13,430 --> 00:28:09,750 questions book the 12th planet and the 648 00:28:14,540 --> 00:28:13,440 others to add books chamber the Nephilim 649 00:28:19,010 --> 00:28:14,550 themselves the following 650 00:28:23,060 --> 00:28:19,020 now here's the kicker to the failed 651 00:28:26,060 --> 00:28:23,070 experiment of DNA why apparently those 652 00:28:27,860 --> 00:28:26,070 euro Falls hit something in space go 653 00:28:32,450 --> 00:28:27,870 flying information and I'll prove it 654 00:28:36,110 --> 00:28:32,460 later on towards the moon but 655 00:28:39,970 --> 00:28:36,120 unfortunately there's something on the 656 00:28:43,430 --> 00:28:39,980 moon not a pace not a base but a device 657 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:43,440 there was a stalker body uh nanaki's to 658 00:28:50,540 --> 00:28:48,450 prevent to prevent the so called the 659 00:28:53,450 --> 00:28:50,550 original fallen angels from escaping 660 00:28:57,650 --> 00:28:53,460 this earth it's an invisible barrier 661 00:28:59,840 --> 00:28:57,660 that cannot be seen that originates on 662 00:29:03,380 --> 00:28:59,850 the moon and it's all around the earth 663 00:29:05,810 --> 00:29:03,390 like an invisible ball mesh if any one 664 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:05,820 of those Nephilim tries to escape the 665 00:29:10,430 --> 00:29:08,850 Earth's barrier which is accordingly 666 00:29:13,060 --> 00:29:10,440 miles away from the surface of the earth 667 00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:13,070 the height of the moon if they hit it 668 00:29:19,670 --> 00:29:17,840 that varying with respect it's destroyed 669 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:19,680 okay you know when you're going wait 670 00:29:23,660 --> 00:29:21,570 ahead of us here Aaron you're going way 671 00:29:25,460 --> 00:29:23,670 ahead of us here all right we have a 672 00:29:27,970 --> 00:29:25,470 barrier this is not the Van Allen belt 673 00:29:30,890 --> 00:29:27,980 no no okay 674 00:29:34,270 --> 00:29:30,900 the pole angels only when the landed 675 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:34,280 here there was so punished by the gods 676 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:37,170 which according to the Sumerian books or 677 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:40,650 other classic and because Enki and Enlil 678 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:44,130 and some Marduk their own prison to this 679 00:29:51,170 --> 00:29:47,570 planets this is their hell okay 680 00:29:52,420 --> 00:29:51,180 the map type I change but change over 681 00:29:55,820 --> 00:29:52,430 handcuffs or anything 682 00:29:58,580 --> 00:29:55,830 the only thing description here is an 683 00:30:02,060 --> 00:29:58,590 invisible barrier around our planet 684 00:30:03,650 --> 00:30:02,070 earth they cannot penetrate this and 685 00:30:06,740 --> 00:30:03,660 this will barrier but how did we 686 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:06,750 therefore come to send men to the moon 687 00:30:10,820 --> 00:30:08,850 how were we able to send probes to Mars 688 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:10,830 and elsewhere if there's invisible 689 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:14,210 barriers it specifically dedicated 690 00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:18,810 towards this race or what yes let me 691 00:30:24,050 --> 00:30:21,360 explain to you another bombshell those 692 00:30:25,490 --> 00:30:24,060 fallen angels through generations of 693 00:30:28,340 --> 00:30:25,500 course intermarriage to the women of 694 00:30:30,530 --> 00:30:28,350 Earth and we also carry their DNA 695 00:30:33,140 --> 00:30:30,540 so let me ask a question now you 696 00:30:38,450 --> 00:30:33,150 remember any mission so far so far of 697 00:30:40,370 --> 00:30:38,460 mankind they won't be on the moon you 698 00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:40,380 mean other than the landings of the 699 00:30:46,210 --> 00:30:43,710 Apollo program they were still on the 700 00:30:49,820 --> 00:30:46,220 moon looking to the surface of the Moon 701 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:49,830 too little barrier were you but you know 702 00:30:55,850 --> 00:30:54,450 a very mission publicly known to us but 703 00:30:57,740 --> 00:30:55,860 you'll government or by Russian 704 00:31:02,440 --> 00:30:57,750 government of any manned mission to went 705 00:31:05,150 --> 00:31:02,450 beyond the quarter mile negative the 706 00:31:08,210 --> 00:31:05,160 quorum I'm so beyond the two hundred 707 00:31:12,350 --> 00:31:08,220 fifty thousand mile barrier okay so it's 708 00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:12,360 living beings it's not simply spacecraft 709 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:16,160 it has to have intelligent passengers 710 00:31:23,540 --> 00:31:21,690 didn't beans I mean the human race in 711 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:23,550 other words what you're saying is we're 712 00:31:29,090 --> 00:31:25,770 quarantined on this planet is what it 713 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:29,100 sounds like you're saying exactly well I 714 00:31:32,150 --> 00:31:31,050 mean Aaron you know I really have to be 715 00:31:33,740 --> 00:31:32,160 honest with you all this stuff is 716 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:33,750 fascinating I think it would make make a 717 00:31:37,820 --> 00:31:35,970 great science fiction novel but you know 718 00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:37,830 you're you're really you're stating a 719 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:40,710 lot of things as fact that that that you 720 00:31:47,540 --> 00:31:44,370 you have no way to back this up I mean 721 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:47,550 and demonstrate any sort of direct 722 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:49,530 scientific evidence that would support 723 00:31:55,370 --> 00:31:52,410 your conclusions I mean it's all sounds 724 00:31:57,050 --> 00:31:55,380 very plausible I mean and you know you 725 00:31:59,210 --> 00:31:57,060 know kind of a dramatic sort of science 726 00:32:01,390 --> 00:31:59,220 fiction sort of way but here at the pair 727 00:32:06,770 --> 00:32:01,400 casts we we require a little bit more 728 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:06,780 evidence and and you know I quite 729 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:08,910 frankly I'm I think it was my jaw on the 730 00:32:12,170 --> 00:32:10,770 table going that you know this I can't 731 00:32:15,650 --> 00:32:12,180 believe this guy's saying this stuff is 732 00:32:17,990 --> 00:32:15,660 fact we don't know him I'm gonna give it 733 00:32:21,170 --> 00:32:18,000 you do you remember approximately let's 734 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:21,180 go in the time line that for Roswell you 735 00:32:28,610 --> 00:32:24,330 you tell me Rafi would happen about a 736 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:28,620 week before Roswell something very very 737 00:32:33,620 --> 00:32:31,170 famous of course these sighting from 738 00:32:36,770 --> 00:32:33,630 Kenneth Arnold okay well a huge wave of 739 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:36,780 activity all down the West coaster right 740 00:32:42,140 --> 00:32:40,110 now exactly one week before the question 741 00:32:45,530 --> 00:32:42,150 of the Roswell he's after one week 742 00:32:50,930 --> 00:32:45,540 riding on June 24th by Kenneth Arnold 743 00:32:53,510 --> 00:32:50,940 okay over here watching our listeners 744 00:32:56,140 --> 00:32:53,520 are really up to speed so you we don't 745 00:33:05,510 --> 00:33:00,490 okay so he said it so nine UFOs 746 00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:05,520 nine UFOs fly information after I saw 747 00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:07,440 that he landed when he spotted a state 748 00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:08,690 trooper 749 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:13,320 he said the deleting UFO was not round 750 00:33:18,050 --> 00:33:16,410 but we shapeable questions alright so we 751 00:33:19,340 --> 00:33:18,060 are on the same page here of the 752 00:33:22,190 --> 00:33:19,350 original report of Kenneth Arnold 753 00:33:24,710 --> 00:33:22,200 sighting talked of nine disc shape or 754 00:33:27,410 --> 00:33:24,720 crescent shaped objects later on it was 755 00:33:29,990 --> 00:33:27,420 reported that in actuality the lead 756 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:30,000 craft was the one that was crescent 757 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:31,770 shaped just clarify that point that's 758 00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:34,530 all the term UFO was not used because it 759 00:33:38,420 --> 00:33:36,360 wasn't invented yet it was invented 760 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:38,430 later on by Captain Edward group health 761 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:42,210 he referred to them as having a motion 762 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:44,970 that resembled saucers skipping across 763 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:47,610 water and someone in the press said AHA 764 00:33:54,050 --> 00:33:50,090 flying saucers that's where it started 765 00:33:58,820 --> 00:33:54,060 okay I'll go with that the word thought 766 00:34:01,880 --> 00:33:58,830 good idea good now one of the UFO crash 767 00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:01,890 sites in the rural area I'm not sure 768 00:34:07,490 --> 00:34:04,380 with the Wachtel in Roswell but what you 769 00:34:10,220 --> 00:34:07,500 Mexico one of the crash sites some 770 00:34:15,110 --> 00:34:10,230 described the you force been not round 771 00:34:17,870 --> 00:34:15,120 but that's a moon shaped so officially 772 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:17,880 or unofficially I'm trying very hard to 773 00:34:24,500 --> 00:34:22,530 tie together those manual for scene 774 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:24,510 while we currently flying information in 775 00:34:32,530 --> 00:34:30,510 the sky we're a week later the same 979 776 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:32,540 you for the question Roswell the 777 00:34:37,940 --> 00:34:35,280 far-fetched making us all right well 778 00:34:42,010 --> 00:34:37,950 number one the Roswell crash does not 779 00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:42,020 describe nine or even seven objects okay 780 00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:44,720 well like I said like I told you four 781 00:34:51,530 --> 00:34:47,730 when I looked at it movie millimeter 782 00:34:54,169 --> 00:34:51,540 movie okay the lips sort of pilots those 783 00:34:55,129 --> 00:34:54,179 interview his lips said specifically 784 00:34:56,899 --> 00:34:55,139 this 785 00:35:01,130 --> 00:34:56,909 lessen between seven eight or nine 786 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:01,140 locations okay so that gets back to the 787 00:35:05,269 --> 00:35:02,970 other thing here we have a legend of the 788 00:35:07,789 --> 00:35:05,279 Roswell crash where people remember 789 00:35:10,670 --> 00:35:07,799 different details we have stories about 790 00:35:12,410 --> 00:35:10,680 another crash at Aztec New Mexico and 791 00:35:14,660 --> 00:35:12,420 that's disputed by a lot of UFO 792 00:35:17,299 --> 00:35:14,670 researchers but I do know that some 793 00:35:20,089 --> 00:35:17,309 researchers such as Scott Ramsey and 794 00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:20,099 also Frank Warren do favorite this can 795 00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:22,049 be a book about it later this year but 796 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:23,730 I'm still not seeing this connection 797 00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:26,010 with all the stuff in the Bible you know 798 00:35:30,769 --> 00:35:27,710 I'm not really understanding this yet 799 00:35:32,859 --> 00:35:30,779 but I will say is when Kenneth Arnold 800 00:35:37,460 --> 00:35:32,869 sort of now you opposed a week earlier 801 00:35:38,019 --> 00:35:37,470 those nine UFOs supposedly now or on a 802 00:35:41,210 --> 00:35:38,029 mission 803 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:41,220 well I assume if they are real 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00:40:46,190 price 930 00:40:50,710 --> 00:40:48,290 call the Berkey guy at one eight seven 931 00:40:52,930 --> 00:40:50,720 seven eight eight six three six five 932 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:52,940 three that's one eight seven seven eight 933 00:40:58,210 --> 00:40:55,610 eight six three six five three or order 934 00:41:03,310 --> 00:40:58,220 online at Gober Keep Calm that's Gober 935 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:03,320 keep calm today hi this is Don Ecker and 936 00:41:08,860 --> 00:41:06,770 you are tuned into the para cast let me 937 00:41:09,730 --> 00:41:08,870 tell you what you're gonna hear stuff 938 00:41:18,670 --> 00:41:09,740 here 939 00:41:20,830 --> 00:41:18,680 Aaron Kaplan the book is deep analysis 940 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:20,840 frightening conclusion with gene and 941 00:41:25,030 --> 00:41:23,330 Chris and the power cast I have to tell 942 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:25,040 you Aaron and I'm not you know trying to 943 00:41:29,350 --> 00:41:27,410 put anything down because frankly we 944 00:41:31,380 --> 00:41:29,360 still are waiting for your evidence 945 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:31,390 we're looking you know at the various 946 00:41:37,690 --> 00:41:33,890 parts of the whole before we look at 947 00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:37,700 everything when I set up a forum a 948 00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:40,850 message thread in the para cast 949 00:41:46,030 --> 00:41:43,369 community forums the first question that 950 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:46,040 came to mind from our listeners is was 951 00:41:50,020 --> 00:41:48,530 this book meant to be fact or fiction so 952 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:50,030 I assume from talking to you this is a 953 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:53,650 factual book right that's actual book 954 00:41:59,530 --> 00:41:56,450 according to my gathering of evidence 955 00:42:02,020 --> 00:41:59,540 that came up with very very factual for 956 00:42:06,130 --> 00:42:02,030 my sources okay so let's move beyond 957 00:42:08,740 --> 00:42:06,140 Roswell and Kenneth Arnold and let's 958 00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:08,750 look at other so-called parallels what 959 00:42:13,270 --> 00:42:11,450 else before Kenneth Arnold something 960 00:42:15,090 --> 00:42:13,280 other major thing happened very major 961 00:42:19,290 --> 00:42:15,100 that government is trying to keep very 962 00:42:22,170 --> 00:42:19,300 very quiet which is operation Highjump 963 00:42:25,050 --> 00:42:22,180 now you have no idea what a connection 964 00:42:27,130 --> 00:42:25,060 again according to my findings 965 00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:27,140 operation Highjump has to do with 966 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:30,740 Kenneth Arnold and Roswell how sir do 967 00:42:35,740 --> 00:42:33,290 not break do not break the high jump 968 00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:35,750 publicly there was no one in the 969 00:42:42,220 --> 00:42:38,900 scientific expedition look for minerals 970 00:42:45,190 --> 00:42:42,230 and so forth and so forth quietly behind 971 00:42:47,770 --> 00:42:45,200 closed chains it was mission to find 972 00:42:50,859 --> 00:42:47,780 some some hidden Nazis from World War 973 00:42:55,270 --> 00:42:50,869 two that hid under the ice in Antarctica 974 00:42:57,570 --> 00:42:55,280 in the South Pole supposedly so we three 975 00:43:01,710 --> 00:42:57,580 we have a fleet of 40 peaceful ships 976 00:43:06,130 --> 00:43:01,720 forty warships two aircraft carriers 977 00:43:09,250 --> 00:43:06,140 Basilica C destroyers submarines all had 978 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:09,260 a turret Aria cathartica and one of the 979 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:11,690 head people on the fleet was Admiral 980 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,450 Byrd very famous person it were many 981 00:43:19,240 --> 00:43:16,880 missions as we all know in twenties and 982 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:19,250 32:43 South and North Pole it was pretty 983 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:21,490 familiar with with with territories 984 00:43:26,990 --> 00:43:23,610 vision mission on that 985 00:43:29,810 --> 00:43:27,000 a big mission operation Highjump was who 986 00:43:32,170 --> 00:43:29,820 was supposed to be a peaceful mission it 987 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:32,180 was basically in charge of six aircraft 988 00:43:39,650 --> 00:43:35,970 called our 40s our D fours which 989 00:43:41,570 --> 00:43:39,660 basically converted VC trees full of 990 00:43:46,610 --> 00:43:41,580 cameras and very highly classified 991 00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:46,620 equipment the main camera type that was 992 00:43:52,570 --> 00:43:48,870 used in his missions was the traumatic 993 00:43:55,070 --> 00:43:52,580 on cameras supposedly the three lenses 994 00:43:58,450 --> 00:43:55,080 one lens pointing straight down to the 995 00:44:01,070 --> 00:43:58,460 ground one lens and a 45 degree angle 996 00:44:05,150 --> 00:44:01,080 one lens straight out 997 00:44:07,910 --> 00:44:05,160 now those explains to call from the 998 00:44:12,860 --> 00:44:07,920 aircraft carrier the Philippine Sea 999 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:12,870 I believe roughly on January 29 1947 1000 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:16,290 now those explained to type I changed by 1001 00:44:23,150 --> 00:44:20,370 change to the deck carrier so their 1002 00:44:27,020 --> 00:44:23,160 carrier if its fighters want to see any 1003 00:44:29,990 --> 00:44:27,030 action would not join any action after 1004 00:44:33,410 --> 00:44:30,000 those explained to go first everybody 1005 00:44:36,620 --> 00:44:33,420 seen a girl Birds step into the second D 1006 00:44:40,750 --> 00:44:36,630 our forty years ago from the carrier by 1007 00:44:45,170 --> 00:44:40,760 the way those plane took off with the 1008 00:44:48,110 --> 00:44:45,180 snow skills right on them very risky but 1009 00:44:50,330 --> 00:44:48,120 they did it they took off two small base 1010 00:44:52,130 --> 00:44:50,340 in a target called little America for 1011 00:44:54,980 --> 00:44:52,140 believe which is roughly a troop obey 1012 00:44:59,120 --> 00:44:54,990 hunt miles away I'm going to stop one 1013 00:45:00,950 --> 00:44:59,130 second here go back a few hours when 1014 00:45:04,570 --> 00:45:00,960 this fleet entered the area of 1015 00:45:08,150 --> 00:45:04,580 Antarctica the center of the South Pole 1016 00:45:10,340 --> 00:45:08,160 everything is very very peaceful now 1017 00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:10,350 remember there were roughly 4,000 posts 1018 00:45:16,300 --> 00:45:12,960 people who are this fleet's sailors 1019 00:45:19,970 --> 00:45:16,310 American English Russian join 1020 00:45:23,140 --> 00:45:19,980 Australians doing some polish a few 1021 00:45:26,650 --> 00:45:23,150 other countries they started to attack 1022 00:45:30,380 --> 00:45:26,660 who is supposed to be German 1023 00:45:32,330 --> 00:45:30,390 fortifications on the ice Natalia 1024 00:45:35,930 --> 00:45:32,340 wait wait wait when did this happen this 1025 00:45:37,490 --> 00:45:35,940 is after world war two yeah be right the 1026 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:37,500 last week in January 1027 00:45:41,090 --> 00:45:38,970 and the first to reach the February of 1028 00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:41,100 1947 full operation Highjump 1029 00:45:44,780 --> 00:45:44,310 this is after World War 2 we're still at 1030 00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:44,790 war 1031 00:45:50,750 --> 00:45:49,290 yeah 1940 17 okay after the tube round 1032 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:50,760 after the tube bombs dropped on 1033 00:45:57,590 --> 00:45:54,810 Hiroshima way after abrir after three 1034 00:46:01,000 --> 00:45:57,600 years after it was supposed to be a very 1035 00:46:03,980 --> 00:46:01,010 peaceful operation but it was not 1036 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:03,990 somebody new was waiting out there but 1037 00:46:07,850 --> 00:46:06,930 they weren't positive as Luther click 1038 00:46:10,820 --> 00:46:07,860 entered the area 1039 00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:10,830 everything is very peaceful so the 1040 00:46:15,050 --> 00:46:13,020 reason I understand what use used 1041 00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:15,060 government it did not want to be known 1042 00:46:21,170 --> 00:46:17,730 to the world what they are doing if they 1043 00:46:23,780 --> 00:46:21,180 didn't want to start World War three we 1044 00:46:26,690 --> 00:46:23,790 want to admit because it may be 1045 00:46:29,420 --> 00:46:26,700 attacking hiding Germans under the ice 1046 00:46:33,410 --> 00:46:29,430 Antarctica lets will start to World War 1047 00:46:34,460 --> 00:46:33,420 three everything was hushed up we just 1048 00:46:35,930 --> 00:46:34,470 beat the Germans how could there be 1049 00:46:37,550 --> 00:46:35,940 World War three if they're just hiding 1050 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:37,560 under the ice and there's probably not 1051 00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:39,810 many of them I don't understand you know 1052 00:46:49,190 --> 00:46:46,260 your terminology the Germans knew they 1053 00:46:49,870 --> 00:46:49,200 were going to lose the war so what they 1054 00:46:53,090 --> 00:46:49,880 did it 1055 00:46:56,860 --> 00:46:53,100 very quietly in secret it's crazy the 1056 00:47:01,340 --> 00:46:56,870 sounds they gathered many young men 1057 00:47:05,810 --> 00:47:01,350 mostly Germans some Europeans we gather 1058 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:05,820 them for special mission and supposedly 1059 00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:07,770 they you know had a submarine base and 1060 00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:09,510 other things there but correct you're 1061 00:47:14,930 --> 00:47:12,480 right you're right on you correct that 1062 00:47:18,950 --> 00:47:14,940 one more thing happen something else was 1063 00:47:22,370 --> 00:47:18,960 there besides the Germans thought you 1064 00:47:25,550 --> 00:47:22,380 only understand he may have heard it but 1065 00:47:29,180 --> 00:47:25,560 audience me another as soon as our fleet 1066 00:47:32,570 --> 00:47:29,190 opened fire on those so-called 1067 00:47:35,990 --> 00:47:32,580 fortifications there was suddenly 1068 00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:36,000 attacked with an ultra sound out of this 1069 00:47:44,380 --> 00:47:40,110 world by flying saucers UFOs but the two 1070 00:47:47,570 --> 00:47:44,390 types to attack with two types of UFOs 1071 00:47:50,749 --> 00:47:47,580 while look like UFOs we saw in fiction 1072 00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:50,759 like German UFOs super mechanical built 1073 00:47:58,620 --> 00:47:54,880 we all exist so a strange name that they 1074 00:48:02,309 --> 00:47:58,630 were given the audio falls open fire on 1075 00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:02,319 the fleet's caused heavy damage while at 1076 00:48:10,739 --> 00:48:05,559 the same time between these you oppose 1077 00:48:12,150 --> 00:48:10,749 the mother you force appeared huge what 1078 00:48:15,630 --> 00:48:12,160 was almost as big as a battleship though 1079 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:15,640 very smooth very shiny they didn't fire 1080 00:48:23,489 --> 00:48:18,970 one shot they came from under the water 1081 00:48:26,940 --> 00:48:23,499 who over the fleet beckon water the 1082 00:48:27,769 --> 00:48:26,950 scouts as soon as our fleet stopped 1083 00:48:34,259 --> 00:48:27,779 firing 1084 00:48:37,589 --> 00:48:34,269 to four times we had some heavy 1085 00:48:41,210 --> 00:48:37,599 casualties I'm not gonna go into the 1086 00:48:45,630 --> 00:48:41,220 name of ships untested back off or 1087 00:48:49,370 --> 00:48:45,640 however at the same time you have to 1088 00:48:53,849 --> 00:48:49,380 remember that admiral byrd was already 1089 00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:53,859 on his way among six rd fours toward the 1090 00:49:00,890 --> 00:48:58,480 base rural America for for peaceful 1091 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:00,900 missions to take pictures of the area 1092 00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:04,089 with a very famous traumatic on cameras 1093 00:49:10,229 --> 00:49:08,559 now here's the catch 22 the government 1094 00:49:12,870 --> 00:49:10,239 will try to brainwash the whole world 1095 00:49:16,259 --> 00:49:12,880 that Admiral Byrd was not in South 1096 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:16,269 America at same time but he was a North 1097 00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:19,210 Pole and all the greatest stories about 1098 00:49:27,420 --> 00:49:22,180 little bird in a North Pole boring an 1099 00:49:32,009 --> 00:49:27,430 earth a fake and they never happened so 1100 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:32,019 here's the catch October 10th exact time 1101 00:49:39,329 --> 00:49:34,450 was never in the North Pole to the South 1102 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:39,339 Pole in Antarctica taking pictures now 1103 00:49:44,220 --> 00:49:41,410 I'm gonna interrupt you here Aaron for a 1104 00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,230 second because the late Ray Palmer used 1105 00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:46,720 the presence of Admiral Byrd in 1106 00:49:50,489 --> 00:49:48,910 different parts of the world as evidence 1107 00:49:57,150 --> 00:49:50,499 that actually he went and visited the 1108 00:49:59,099 --> 00:49:57,160 Hollow Earth you ever hear that I'm 1109 00:50:02,729 --> 00:49:59,109 still wondering what you're basing this 1110 00:50:04,010 --> 00:50:02,739 this engagement supposedly you're 1111 00:50:06,470 --> 00:50:04,020 describing 1112 00:50:08,210 --> 00:50:06,480 you know what I'm getting at yeah 1113 00:50:09,860 --> 00:50:08,220 where's this information you got to 1114 00:50:12,050 --> 00:50:09,870 qualify this for the listeners here I 1115 00:50:16,010 --> 00:50:12,060 mean where'd you get this information 1116 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:16,020 I sure will those cameras aboard the RT 1117 00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:19,490 fours called for Mexican cameras now a 1118 00:50:25,970 --> 00:50:22,250 research is very carefully the film 1119 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:25,980 universe special filmed by Kodak on 1120 00:50:30,890 --> 00:50:28,770 those cameras that film was made to be 1121 00:50:34,910 --> 00:50:30,900 used only during daytime extreme 1122 00:50:37,730 --> 00:50:34,920 daylight hours not at nighttime now do 1123 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:37,740 you know with North Pole looks like on a 1124 00:50:42,950 --> 00:50:40,530 second week of February it's black 1125 00:50:44,630 --> 00:50:42,960 so let's the winter so how could anybody 1126 00:50:47,110 --> 00:50:44,640 tell me that I will Berg was in the 1127 00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:47,120 North Pole in the second book February 1128 00:50:52,190 --> 00:50:49,950 no one it's a lie all right well maybe 1129 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:52,200 he wasn't there at the North Pole maybe 1130 00:50:56,060 --> 00:50:54,090 he was at the South Pole but I think 1131 00:50:58,820 --> 00:50:56,070 we're looking Chris and I for evidence 1132 00:51:00,860 --> 00:50:58,830 of some kind of engagement with UFOs 1133 00:51:02,210 --> 00:51:00,870 where shots were fired and that's 1134 00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:02,220 something we have to explore in more 1135 00:51:06,620 --> 00:51:04,260 detail what could I say but we've got a 1136 00:51:08,690 --> 00:51:06,630 lot more coming if you have a comment or 1137 00:51:10,670 --> 00:51:08,700 a question about the para cast please 1138 00:51:12,950 --> 00:51:10,680 let us know please write us news at the 1139 00:51:15,980 --> 00:51:12,960 power cast calm once again that's news 1140 00:51:18,170 --> 00:51:15,990 at the power cast calm and by the way we 1141 00:51:21,260 --> 00:51:18,180 also have those great power cast 1142 00:51:23,570 --> 00:51:21,270 community forums at forum dot the para 1143 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:23,580 cast calm once again that's forum dot 1144 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:26,610 the para cast comm-pass a visit 1145 00:51:31,610 --> 00:51:29,250 our guest is Aaron Kaplan the book is 1146 00:51:34,190 --> 00:51:31,620 called deep analysis frightening 1147 00:51:37,140 --> 00:51:34,200 conclusion I'm gene the co-host is Chris 1148 00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:37,150 you're in the para cast 1149 00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:47,880 the GC and radio network providing the 1150 00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:50,950 world with hard-hitting talk radio G C 1151 00:51:56,790 --> 00:51:55,030 and great talk radio starts here hi this 1152 00:51:58,260 --> 00:51:56,800 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00:52:24,700 wheat fabric engraving can bed strips 1167 00:52:27,780 --> 00:52:26,140 and fibers to protect from counterfeit 1168 00:52:28,740 --> 00:52:27,790 than carding to a private bank having a 1169 00:52:30,359 --> 00:52:28,750 led back at interest 1170 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:30,369 forcing taxes to service debt this 1171 00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:32,050 capitalism was Jefferson correct when 1172 00:52:34,859 --> 00:52:33,369 stating a central bank issuing the 1173 00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:34,869 public currency is a greater menace to 1174 00:52:37,109 --> 00:52:35,890 the liberties of the people than a 1175 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:37,119 standing army today understand I'm 1176 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:38,410 placing a free silver dollar in a book 1177 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:40,089 that explains our monetary system call 1178 00:52:46,109 --> 00:52:43,330 for your copy 806 86 to 237 it's time to 1179 00:52:55,990 --> 00:52:46,119 understand the system call 866 to 237 1180 00:53:04,810 --> 00:52:59,930 welcome back to the para cast the gold 1181 00:53:12,380 --> 00:53:04,820 standard of paranormal radio and now 1182 00:53:15,050 --> 00:53:12,390 here's Jane Steinberg this takes us to 1183 00:53:17,630 --> 00:53:15,060 our number two para casts we have Aaron 1184 00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:17,640 Caplan the book is deep analysis 1185 00:53:23,900 --> 00:53:20,130 frightening conclusion we're talking 1186 00:53:27,530 --> 00:53:23,910 about a supposed engagement between us 1187 00:53:29,450 --> 00:53:27,540 and them so you're going to explain all 1188 00:53:30,350 --> 00:53:29,460 this about Admiral Byrd and all the 1189 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:30,360 confusion 1190 00:53:35,930 --> 00:53:33,210 I'm the para cast please do so now on 1191 00:53:39,140 --> 00:53:35,940 the last day taking pictures in the 1192 00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:39,150 South Pole basically last mission was 1193 00:53:44,150 --> 00:53:42,020 very well reported for everybody that 1194 00:53:46,730 --> 00:53:44,160 displayed with Taylor and Russell three 1195 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:46,740 hours late from a mission and the 1196 00:53:52,670 --> 00:53:48,450 stories going around through official 1197 00:53:57,230 --> 00:53:52,680 channels is that it's engine one of its 1198 00:54:02,300 --> 00:53:57,240 engines and orally and was disabled and 1199 00:54:05,470 --> 00:54:02,310 took him longer to arrive now on YouTube 1200 00:54:08,270 --> 00:54:05,480 on YouTube I watched many clips 1201 00:54:11,690 --> 00:54:08,280 supposedly of true pictures taken a 1202 00:54:14,360 --> 00:54:11,700 bogus plane showing people on this plane 1203 00:54:16,070 --> 00:54:14,370 pushing about giant boxes outside a 1204 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:16,080 doorway while the plane was flight to 1205 00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:19,530 make it lighter so won't crash due to 1206 00:54:27,380 --> 00:54:23,760 losing an engine however this is my 1207 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:27,390 catch-22 if you read Admiral Byrd's 1208 00:54:33,950 --> 00:54:31,290 diary on his last mission when he 1209 00:54:36,380 --> 00:54:33,960 claimed then we got very close to the 1210 00:54:38,060 --> 00:54:36,390 opening of the South Pole he felt a 1211 00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:38,070 magnetic pull of his aircraft and he's 1212 00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:41,490 saying what's called three 260 of force 1213 00:54:48,290 --> 00:54:44,850 around and pull him in through the 1214 00:54:50,230 --> 00:54:48,300 opening and we need what desirey and 1215 00:54:54,110 --> 00:54:50,240 remember the diary is not a diver yet 1216 00:54:56,380 --> 00:54:54,120 it's a it's a flight workbook so Admiral 1217 00:54:59,690 --> 00:54:56,390 Byrd is doing I was writing is what book 1218 00:55:02,900 --> 00:54:59,700 which every pilot did those days and 1219 00:55:07,790 --> 00:55:02,910 usually what's this logbook it is only I 1220 00:55:09,549 --> 00:55:07,800 am a regiment Howard on this plane so a 1221 00:55:12,219 --> 00:55:09,559 little birdie say 1222 00:55:16,399 --> 00:55:12,229 nobody's caught or change the first 1223 00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:16,409 isn't that last fight was only Admiral 1224 00:55:22,999 --> 00:55:20,400 better plain or his regimen Howard and 1225 00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:23,009 what Admiral Byrd did he hooked up all 1226 00:55:29,179 --> 00:55:25,619 the cameras in a plane to be triggered 1227 00:55:31,249 --> 00:55:29,189 by full of a wire that fooled the plane 1228 00:55:33,289 --> 00:55:31,259 was full of tripods and cameras both 1229 00:55:36,019 --> 00:55:33,299 onto the fuselage to the window there 1230 00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:36,029 were no buckets on a plane so when you 1231 00:55:41,839 --> 00:55:39,150 saw those falling movies on YouTube set 1232 00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:41,849 up by our ex government specialists to 1233 00:55:46,009 --> 00:55:44,400 brainwash us there's no more pockets on 1234 00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:46,019 the plane it was only him and his 1235 00:55:52,370 --> 00:55:50,089 regiment Howard now keep going 1236 00:55:55,069 --> 00:55:52,380 supposedly when they landed inside the 1237 00:55:59,059 --> 00:55:55,079 Inner Earth they were approached by 1238 00:56:03,130 --> 00:55:59,069 people in Admiral Byrd is saying the 1239 00:56:06,549 --> 00:56:03,140 approach a tall man with long blond hair 1240 00:56:10,130 --> 00:56:06,559 that's what stops writing in his logbook 1241 00:56:13,370 --> 00:56:10,140 which became later on his secret diary 1242 00:56:16,329 --> 00:56:13,380 just remember the secret diary is made 1243 00:56:18,679 --> 00:56:16,339 of two F's the first half of a logbook 1244 00:56:23,870 --> 00:56:18,689 and the second act was written only 1245 00:56:27,259 --> 00:56:23,880 after return to base go to the States so 1246 00:56:29,929 --> 00:56:27,269 I'll continue it goes through city not 1247 00:56:35,299 --> 00:56:29,939 walking but to compare belt or whatever 1248 00:56:41,449 --> 00:56:35,309 he was on first he says he's in a giant 1249 00:56:44,989 --> 00:56:41,459 crystal city a city of crystals now 1250 00:56:49,999 --> 00:56:44,999 those days when somebody says the city 1251 00:56:52,399 --> 00:56:50,009 of crystals other living email I believe 1252 00:56:53,659 --> 00:56:52,409 he meant glass structure all right so 1253 00:56:55,909 --> 00:56:53,669 the long and short of it is you're 1254 00:57:00,349 --> 00:56:55,919 talking about the legend that Admiral 1255 00:57:01,909 --> 00:57:00,359 Byrd visited the Hollow Earth and saw 1256 00:57:06,229 --> 00:57:01,919 intelligent beings but how does that 1257 00:57:08,269 --> 00:57:06,239 connect with engaging UFOs we can get 1258 00:57:11,419 --> 00:57:08,279 into beautiful soup place not an opera 1259 00:57:12,859 --> 00:57:11,429 bird but the sweets like YUM all right 1260 00:57:14,179 --> 00:57:12,869 but where's the evidence of that I don't 1261 00:57:16,099 --> 00:57:14,189 see the evidence and what does that have 1262 00:57:17,799 --> 00:57:16,109 to do with Admiral Byrd and visiting the 1263 00:57:19,819 --> 00:57:17,809 Hollow Earth if that's what happened 1264 00:57:20,989 --> 00:57:19,829 well I'll go on and I'll try to convince 1265 00:57:22,850 --> 00:57:20,999 you to do what I'm saying is correct 1266 00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:22,860 well I think first we have to 1267 00:57:27,380 --> 00:57:25,170 established these events happen and then 1268 00:57:29,060 --> 00:57:27,390 look at the connection between one of 1269 00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,070 the other and I'm not seeing that 1270 00:57:35,090 --> 00:57:30,960 where's the evidence that there was this 1271 00:57:37,670 --> 00:57:35,100 encounter involving weaponry you know 1272 00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:37,680 why few efforts very difficult because 1273 00:57:44,210 --> 00:57:41,220 use government to duel is best to copper 1274 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:44,220 up operation Highjump you know why we 1275 00:57:47,210 --> 00:57:45,450 understand they're trying to cover it up 1276 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:47,220 if it happened but where's your evidence 1277 00:57:54,770 --> 00:57:50,730 that it occurred i gather evidence for 1278 00:57:57,590 --> 00:57:54,780 all writing the found all frigates and 1279 00:57:59,570 --> 00:57:57,600 all records for more publications are 1280 00:58:02,330 --> 00:57:59,580 you just looking at the old magazines 1281 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:02,340 like weekly world news or something 1282 00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:04,770 these know wacky supermarket tabloids or 1283 00:58:12,340 --> 00:58:07,110 what no sir I've never looked at one 1284 00:58:15,860 --> 00:58:12,350 magazine strictly official records 1285 00:58:18,190 --> 00:58:15,870 including there's also what official 1286 00:58:21,110 --> 00:58:18,200 records are we talking about here that 1287 00:58:22,430 --> 00:58:21,120 publication from World War two okay so 1288 00:58:26,450 --> 00:58:22,440 you're saying there are publications 1289 00:58:29,330 --> 00:58:26,460 from World War two the talk of the 1290 00:58:32,570 --> 00:58:29,340 exchange of firepower between us and 1291 00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:32,580 them is that what you're saying yes okay 1292 00:58:40,660 --> 00:58:34,110 what Dr mean are we talking about where 1293 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:44,690 don't confusion will tell you well I'm 1294 00:58:48,350 --> 00:58:46,650 confused already how come documents from 1295 00:58:51,140 --> 00:58:48,360 World War two talk about an event two 1296 00:58:52,580 --> 00:58:51,150 years later in 1947 I mean you got 1297 00:58:56,950 --> 00:58:52,590 missed my head spinning around here 1298 00:59:02,750 --> 00:58:59,300 exactly would you as government intends 1299 00:59:04,940 --> 00:59:02,760 to do they cannot allow the average 1300 00:59:07,010 --> 00:59:04,950 person in the streets to negative 1301 00:59:08,660 --> 00:59:07,020 connection okay oh you're saying you 1302 00:59:10,010 --> 00:59:08,670 made the connection the government 1303 00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:10,020 doesn't want us to make the connection 1304 00:59:18,430 --> 00:59:12,180 you made the connection I still don't 1305 00:59:24,830 --> 00:59:22,580 as when Julius Rosenberg the trial head 1306 00:59:27,170 --> 00:59:24,840 for leaking out nuclear information to 1307 00:59:33,740 --> 00:59:27,180 Russians yeah and there was sentence of 1308 00:59:36,530 --> 00:59:33,750 death right roughly two months through 1309 00:59:40,250 --> 00:59:36,540 the end of a trial there were questions 1310 00:59:42,620 --> 00:59:40,260 suddenly the spoke out of nowhere and 1311 00:59:46,270 --> 00:59:42,630 that's a record you can look it up this 1312 00:59:49,089 --> 00:59:46,280 focal warships from outer space okay and 1313 00:59:53,510 --> 00:59:49,099 then making the name of Admiral Byrd's 1314 00:59:56,150 --> 00:59:53,520 worships from outer space where's that 1315 01:00:00,050 --> 00:59:56,160 mentioned where do we the nurses in the 1316 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:00,060 Rosenberg yes okay so the row is the 1317 01:00:04,579 --> 01:00:02,970 records of the Rosenberg trial and the 1318 01:00:06,620 --> 01:00:04,589 Rosenberg trial was covered by all the 1319 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:06,630 major newspapers at the time such as the 1320 01:00:10,310 --> 01:00:09,450 New York Times The Washington Post etc 1321 01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:10,320 okay 1322 01:00:15,890 --> 01:00:13,050 where are the records of some reference 1323 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:15,900 to airships yes what a mansion dropper 1324 01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:18,530 too long to put the end of the trial 1325 01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:21,450 dimension towards warships about a space 1326 01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:24,210 you know other than you more interested 1327 01:00:29,030 --> 01:00:27,089 in where this record is to be found is 1328 01:00:30,710 --> 01:00:29,040 it to be found in the archives of the 1329 01:00:32,750 --> 01:00:30,720 New York Times if I go to New York and 1330 01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:32,760 look up the newspapers morgue because 1331 01:00:37,940 --> 01:00:35,490 probably it's not online do I see these 1332 01:00:41,450 --> 01:00:37,950 records no I did not find it in New York 1333 01:00:44,210 --> 01:00:41,460 Times a lot of looking basically at the 1334 01:00:47,180 --> 01:00:44,220 Apple and the jeweler's Rosenberg 1335 01:00:48,430 --> 01:00:47,190 through one of my internet research is 1336 01:00:51,710 --> 01:00:48,440 that appear in three or four places 1337 01:00:54,349 --> 01:00:51,720 those three places are I couldn't tell 1338 01:00:57,950 --> 01:00:54,359 you I think we're going in circles here 1339 01:01:01,040 --> 01:00:57,960 my friend okay because you know we have 1340 01:01:03,589 --> 01:01:01,050 evidence that exists nowhere and you say 1341 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:03,599 you found this evidence from four 1342 01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:05,130 different sources but you can't tell us 1343 01:01:14,809 --> 01:01:11,849 who the sources are what do you mean too 1344 01:01:16,579 --> 01:01:14,819 involved okay so I'm trying to 1345 01:01:19,130 --> 01:01:16,589 understand this thing here you're saying 1346 01:01:20,690 --> 01:01:19,140 you have four sources but you can't name 1347 01:01:23,089 --> 01:01:20,700 them is there a reason is it because 1348 01:01:26,690 --> 01:01:23,099 they told you they didn't want to be 1349 01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:26,700 identified or what well no no well I got 1350 01:01:32,329 --> 01:01:29,690 my permission from sources who simply 1351 01:01:36,140 --> 01:01:32,339 clips from the internet without real 1352 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:36,150 source names the superior used may be 1353 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:38,130 publications I can say that I'm not 1354 01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:39,450 going to know all the true that's what 1355 01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:41,520 they were but it still exists on the 1356 01:01:44,150 --> 01:01:42,089 Internet 1357 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:44,160 all right neighbors I think you can see 1358 01:01:48,710 --> 01:01:46,890 I'm getting frustrated here I mean if 1359 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:48,720 you look on the internet for something 1360 01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:50,370 you'll find it there's a 1361 01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:51,930 reference for just about anything there 1362 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:53,850 it doesn't mean that reference is 1363 01:01:56,660 --> 01:01:54,810 authenticated 1364 01:01:58,880 --> 01:01:56,670 well because something exists on the 1365 01:02:01,550 --> 01:01:58,890 internet doesn't mean it's true I agree 1366 01:02:03,890 --> 01:02:01,560 with you I agree with you but most 1367 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:03,900 resources at the stamp they had to stamp 1368 01:02:13,580 --> 01:02:08,970 or believe or not for the u s-- navy now 1369 01:02:16,820 --> 01:02:13,590 make him before the trial of of the 1370 01:02:19,670 --> 01:02:16,830 Rosenbergs okay what I was trying to 1371 01:02:21,470 --> 01:02:19,680 refer to is the Rosenberg jab basically 1372 01:02:24,410 --> 01:02:21,480 was like if you remember the movie three 1373 01:02:26,090 --> 01:02:24,420 days of Condor okay where a bunch of 1374 01:02:30,110 --> 01:02:26,100 people was working the room gathering 1375 01:02:32,750 --> 01:02:30,120 information like a Robert Redford well 1376 01:02:34,550 --> 01:02:32,760 that was their job you could say what 1377 01:02:36,290 --> 01:02:34,560 we'll get into more of the details of 1378 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:36,300 the Rosenbergs and whether we can 1379 01:02:41,030 --> 01:02:37,890 somehow find a connection between that 1380 01:02:43,220 --> 01:02:41,040 and UFOs and the rest with aaron kaplan 1381 01:02:45,850 --> 01:02:43,230 you listening to gene and chris you're 1382 01:02:52,830 --> 01:02:45,860 in the para cast 1383 01:02:57,810 --> 01:02:55,170 so here's what happened I was placing an 1384 01:03:00,420 --> 01:02:57,820 order online the site went down it just 1385 01:03:02,100 --> 01:03:00,430 stopped responding it took hours before 1386 01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:02,110 it returned but I'd already placed the 1387 01:03:06,060 --> 01:03:03,730 order with another company if your site 1388 01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:06,070 goes down you could lose business and if 1389 01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:07,510 you have a business or personal site 1390 01:03:13,050 --> 01:03:09,670 you'll want to know it's easy to run and 1391 01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:13,060 it will stay online at iWeb your site is 1392 01:03:17,820 --> 01:03:15,250 hosted on one of the most reliable 1393 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:17,830 networks in the world check it out 1394 01:03:22,860 --> 01:03:20,890 I web comm that's iWeb comm fate 1395 01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:22,870 magazine provides true reports of the 1396 01:03:25,650 --> 01:03:23,890 strange and unknown 1397 01:03:27,390 --> 01:03:25,660 keep up with the latest on angels and 1398 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:27,400 miracle psychic phenomena ghosts UFOs 1399 01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:30,010 life after death and much much more 1400 01:03:34,170 --> 01:03:31,930 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--> 01:04:08,530 but as you know I have my doubts so let 1415 01:04:13,470 --> 01:04:11,110 me tell you about gold now as my friend 1416 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:13,480 Ted Anderson from Midas Resources likes 1417 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:15,970 to say gold like all commodity markets 1418 01:04:20,490 --> 01:04:18,130 fluctuates in price and you could lose 1419 01:04:22,140 --> 01:04:20,500 money but it has never been worth zero 1420 01:04:24,030 --> 01:04:22,150 give it some thought and if you're 1421 01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:24,040 interested in converting your IRA to 1422 01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:26,170 gold or would like to actually have it 1423 01:05:04,180 --> 01:04:28,240 in your possession call - resources 1424 01:05:07,510 --> 01:05:05,470 light systems include a set of 1425 01:05:09,490 --> 01:05:07,520 self-sterilizing and re cleanable black 1426 01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:09,500 purification elements that purify water 1427 01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:11,930 by removing chlorine pathogenic 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five 1442 01:05:44,650 --> 01:05:41,900 three that's one eight seven seven eight 1443 01:05:47,260 --> 01:05:44,660 eight six three six five three or order 1444 01:05:49,870 --> 01:05:47,270 online at Gober Keep Calm that's Gober 1445 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:49,880 Keep Calm today hi this is Alex Jones 1446 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:51,890 did you know that the global elite are 1447 01:05:55,450 --> 01:05:54,050 now storing non-hybrid seeds and secret 1448 01:05:57,309 --> 01:05:55,460 storage vaults near the Arctic Circle 1449 01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:57,319 did you know that in a real meltdown 1450 01:06:01,240 --> 01:05:59,119 non-hybrid seeds can become more 1451 01:06:02,770 --> 01:06:01,250 valuable than silver or gold it's true 1452 01:06:04,390 --> 01:06:02,780 seeds and I'll perform even gold and 1453 01:06:06,579 --> 01:06:04,400 silver before in this country and it's 1454 01:06:08,290 --> 01:06:06,589 possible that could even happen again so 1455 01:06:10,150 --> 01:06:08,300 our friends at solutions from science 1456 01:06:13,059 --> 01:06:10,160 put together the perfect mix of 1457 01:06:15,609 --> 01:06:13,069 non-hybrid seems they call it a survival 1458 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:15,619 seed bank and it can produce an endless 1459 01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:17,930 supply of nutrient-dense food for you 1460 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:19,490 and your family and here's the best part 1461 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:21,170 these seeds have not been genetically 1462 01:06:25,930 --> 01:06:23,690 modified in any way and you actually get 1463 01:06:28,300 --> 01:06:25,940 enough seeds to plant a full acre Crisis 1464 01:06:31,059 --> 01:06:28,310 Garden so visit them today at survival 1465 01:06:33,370 --> 01:06:31,069 seed bank com that's survival seed bank 1466 01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:33,380 calm or give them a call at eight seven 1467 01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:35,690 seven three two seven zero three six 1468 01:06:41,890 --> 01:06:38,210 five that's eight seven seven three two 1469 01:06:44,230 --> 01:06:41,900 seven zero three six five remember in a 1470 01:06:46,450 --> 01:06:44,240 real crisis non-hybrid seeds are the 1471 01:06:51,730 --> 01:06:46,460 ultimate barter item this is Alex Jones 1472 01:06:54,730 --> 01:06:51,740 for survival seed bank com we'd like to 1473 01:06:57,640 --> 01:06:54,740 hear from you if you have a comment or 1474 01:07:01,140 --> 01:06:57,650 question about the Peres cast send it to 1475 01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:01,150 news at the Peres cast com 1476 01:07:08,130 --> 01:07:04,990 that's news at the para caste dot-com 1477 01:07:11,220 --> 01:07:08,140 and if you'd like to catch up on past 1478 01:07:14,279 --> 01:07:11,230 episodes we have hundreds of shows for 1479 01:07:16,109 --> 01:07:14,289 you to download direct from the para 1480 01:07:20,970 --> 01:07:16,119 cast com 1481 01:07:25,950 --> 01:07:20,980 that's the para cast dot-com or check us 1482 01:07:28,890 --> 01:07:25,960 out at iTunes we're back with a 1483 01:07:31,230 --> 01:07:28,900 head-spinning visit with aaron kaplan 1484 01:07:33,809 --> 01:07:31,240 author of deep analysis frightening 1485 01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:33,819 conclusion with Jean and Chris in the 1486 01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:36,910 para cast okay Aaron you gotta bring 1487 01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:38,799 this together because I have to tell you 1488 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:41,849 my head's spinning and right now I think 1489 01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:45,250 Chris is head is not just spinning he's 1490 01:07:50,910 --> 01:07:47,650 ready to put on the aluminum foil to 1491 01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:50,920 protect himself well you know first the 1492 01:07:57,299 --> 01:07:54,730 apple bird diary I mean is I don't know 1493 01:07:59,039 --> 01:07:57,309 of anybody that really considers that to 1494 01:08:06,150 --> 01:07:59,049 be real I mean it's always been 1495 01:08:10,289 --> 01:08:06,160 considered a hoax and and you know diary 1496 01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:10,299 is actually a flight logbook he was 1497 01:08:14,130 --> 01:08:11,950 supposedly murdered because of what he 1498 01:08:15,950 --> 01:08:14,140 knew and you know I mean there's a lot 1499 01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:15,960 of conspiracy theories out there 1500 01:08:20,430 --> 01:08:18,159 surrounding opera you know the the 1501 01:08:21,930 --> 01:08:20,440 operation to go to New Schwab and lond 1502 01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:21,940 and and what happened while they were 1503 01:08:28,590 --> 01:08:24,850 down there but you know I'm seeing a lot 1504 01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:28,600 of a lot of divergent sort of innuendo 1505 01:08:33,709 --> 01:08:31,330 and rumors and and stuff that you're 1506 01:08:36,030 --> 01:08:33,719 kind of weaving together into a big 1507 01:08:37,860 --> 01:08:36,040 frightening conclusion as your book says 1508 01:08:39,899 --> 01:08:37,870 and quite frankly I think you need a 1509 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:39,909 little bit more you know documentation 1510 01:08:43,559 --> 01:08:41,890 you need to back this these assertions 1511 01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:43,569 up because you're you're just you're 1512 01:08:49,260 --> 01:08:46,330 jumping from one thing to another I I 1513 01:08:52,140 --> 01:08:49,270 don't see you know where you're getting 1514 01:08:53,660 --> 01:08:52,150 your facts I mean I mean this is all I 1515 01:08:55,829 --> 01:08:53,670 mean like I said it sounds like 1516 01:08:57,840 --> 01:08:55,839 fascinating science fiction but I don't 1517 01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:57,850 see you know I don't see you backing 1518 01:09:02,820 --> 01:09:00,159 this stuff up with with hard evidence I 1519 01:09:05,939 --> 01:09:02,830 mean have you done foi a requests for 1520 01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:05,949 instance about operation Highjump have 1521 01:09:09,749 --> 01:09:07,690 you done any sort of document searches 1522 01:09:12,209 --> 01:09:09,759 in archives have you have you really 1523 01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:12,219 done the deep research that a person 1524 01:09:18,930 --> 01:09:14,410 should be doing when they're coming 1525 01:09:20,970 --> 01:09:18,940 up with such you know fantastic ideas 1526 01:09:22,980 --> 01:09:20,980 here I mean why don't you tell us about 1527 01:09:24,630 --> 01:09:22,990 your research process I mean I'm hearing 1528 01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:24,640 you're pulling stuff off the internet I 1529 01:09:34,620 --> 01:09:31,930 mean I mean that Admiral Byrd yet to 1530 01:09:37,410 --> 01:09:34,630 establish one thing first tell you what 1531 01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:37,420 all the stories you hear all the rumors 1532 01:09:43,050 --> 01:09:39,910 all the hype was a pendant with 1533 01:09:45,180 --> 01:09:43,060 intention just that confuse you first 1534 01:09:47,580 --> 01:09:45,190 year to establish one thing where was he 1535 01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:47,590 really was either north pole or the 1536 01:09:54,270 --> 01:09:50,560 South Pole the whole wild world things 1537 01:09:56,070 --> 01:09:54,280 it was at the North Pole okay but 1538 01:09:59,640 --> 01:09:56,080 exactly with you the government's want 1539 01:10:02,130 --> 01:09:59,650 you to think exactly all that force the 1540 01:10:05,130 --> 01:10:02,140 reasoning force is three reasons number 1541 01:10:09,030 --> 01:10:05,140 one he was seen do not reach the high 1542 01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:09,040 jump right middle depletes he was seen 1543 01:10:13,890 --> 01:10:11,650 crying out of climbing up a board an 1544 01:10:15,330 --> 01:10:13,900 hour before or after birth care is taken 1545 01:10:17,490 --> 01:10:15,340 off number two 1546 01:10:20,910 --> 01:10:17,500 the camera is aboard on that plane out 1547 01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:20,920 before withdraw metrical cameras the 1548 01:10:27,900 --> 01:10:24,310 film that they use in those cameras for 1549 01:10:31,050 --> 01:10:27,910 mapping the area who made the correct go 1550 01:10:33,660 --> 01:10:31,060 strictly a daylight film so there were 1551 01:10:36,110 --> 01:10:33,670 daylight film how can they be used at a 1552 01:10:39,900 --> 01:10:36,120 North Pole the second week of February 1553 01:10:42,630 --> 01:10:39,910 it selects all winter impossible right 1554 01:10:45,540 --> 01:10:42,640 again we don't we don't really you know 1555 01:10:48,930 --> 01:10:45,550 that is not really accepted by academia 1556 01:10:51,090 --> 01:10:48,940 or anybody to be a reflection of reality 1557 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:51,100 I mean you know I've heard through the 1558 01:11:03,810 --> 01:11:01,440 tell me Aaron well have you done any of 1559 01:11:05,820 --> 01:11:03,820 Freedom of Information requests work in 1560 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:05,830 this have you have you actually filed 1561 01:11:12,330 --> 01:11:09,130 for documents do you have any any sort 1562 01:11:13,860 --> 01:11:12,340 of real you know certified documents 1563 01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:13,870 that can really back up some of these 1564 01:11:19,230 --> 01:11:15,970 claims because quite frankly I've I mean 1565 01:11:21,540 --> 01:11:19,240 like I said you know havin strange 1566 01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:21,550 answers this documentary 1567 01:11:25,770 --> 01:11:24,010 no longer exists this page no longer 1568 01:11:28,230 --> 01:11:25,780 exists it's done on purpose 1569 01:11:30,810 --> 01:11:28,240 you're not supposed to find out 1570 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:30,820 to official sources because operation 1571 01:11:34,110 --> 01:11:31,330 Highjump 1572 01:11:37,290 --> 01:11:34,120 and I will burden North Pole and the IOT 1573 01:11:40,340 --> 01:11:37,300 falls in in e'terica and it's American 1574 01:11:43,170 --> 01:11:40,350 cameras but gay light film never existed 1575 01:11:45,380 --> 01:11:43,180 existed in a North Pole in fits black 1576 01:11:48,570 --> 01:11:45,390 Snorri it doesn't work 1577 01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:48,580 okay well it's really tough to ascertain 1578 01:11:52,740 --> 01:11:51,010 the reality of something if you really 1579 01:11:55,020 --> 01:11:52,750 have nothing but innuendo rumour and 1580 01:11:57,300 --> 01:11:55,030 conjecture to back it up but it's it's 1581 01:11:58,770 --> 01:11:57,310 gonna be tough for our listeners too to 1582 01:12:00,150 --> 01:11:58,780 really take all this seriously we've got 1583 01:12:02,850 --> 01:12:00,160 it we got a tough bunch there on the 1584 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:02,860 forum and quite frankly I was reading 1585 01:12:07,050 --> 01:12:05,290 through some of the questions how 1586 01:12:09,210 --> 01:12:07,060 there's really not many questions there 1587 01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:09,220 was just a bunch of comments about how 1588 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:12,480 people are very very skeptical about 1589 01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:15,130 many of these of these claims or the 1590 01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:17,710 implications of your claims and you know 1591 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:18,850 I think we're getting caught up in a 1592 01:12:22,620 --> 01:12:20,170 little bit of the minutia thing here I 1593 01:12:25,440 --> 01:12:22,630 want to cut to the chase and and find 1594 01:12:27,060 --> 01:12:25,450 out how you've woven all these divergent 1595 01:12:29,100 --> 01:12:27,070 elements together but I guess you got a 1596 01:12:31,860 --> 01:12:29,110 walk before you crawl or crawl before 1597 01:12:33,870 --> 01:12:31,870 you walk here so continue I didn't mean 1598 01:12:35,340 --> 01:12:33,880 to interrupt I'm just I'm having a tough 1599 01:12:39,330 --> 01:12:35,350 time wrapping my head around this I 1600 01:12:41,730 --> 01:12:39,340 really am my main theme when I'm glad to 1601 01:12:45,480 --> 01:12:41,740 say is the question is Roswell listen 1602 01:12:49,010 --> 01:12:45,490 we're simply a failed experiment and DNA 1603 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:49,020 by the Nephilim using the little greys 1604 01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:51,130 but we don't even know if there was a 1605 01:12:55,260 --> 01:12:52,330 crash at Roswell 1606 01:12:57,540 --> 01:12:55,270 I mean it's still it has never been 1607 01:12:59,520 --> 01:12:57,550 determined beyond any sort of you know 1608 01:13:02,190 --> 01:12:59,530 shadow of a doubt that there was a crash 1609 01:13:07,860 --> 01:13:02,200 at Roswell I mean you read books of 1610 01:13:10,620 --> 01:13:07,870 Stanton Friedman in other probably has 1611 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:10,630 given me more cases of rashes and hives 1612 01:13:17,460 --> 01:13:14,410 and any other subject in my life I way 1613 01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:17,470 too much about Roswell and I've been to 1614 01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:19,510 Roswell I've spoken at Roswell I've 1615 01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:23,110 tramped around down there and and I've 1616 01:13:28,500 --> 01:13:24,910 had to deal with all the the alien 1617 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:28,510 tchotchkes and the pop-culture BS that 1618 01:13:35,340 --> 01:13:32,410 surrounds that case I any time somebody 1619 01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:35,350 uses Roswell as any sort of evidence for 1620 01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:38,560 anything you know my eyes roll up in my 1621 01:13:41,979 --> 01:13:40,300 head and I have to get my calamine 1622 01:13:44,140 --> 01:13:41,989 lotion Oh 1623 01:13:47,170 --> 01:13:44,150 if your even without story you know why 1624 01:13:50,170 --> 01:13:47,180 is it food every tell me an exciting 1625 01:13:53,050 --> 01:13:50,180 summer the country or Texas or Arizona 1626 01:13:55,690 --> 01:13:53,060 or somewhere else what happens the next 1627 01:13:56,890 --> 01:13:55,700 day the next day what do we see bad 1628 01:13:59,950 --> 01:13:56,900 right now but until three months ago 1629 01:14:02,620 --> 01:13:59,960 what do we see if you go to CNN the next 1630 01:14:05,020 --> 01:14:02,630 day which is usual panel Larry King Live 1631 01:14:06,940 --> 01:14:05,030 with a glass of seltzer his hand and the 1632 01:14:09,490 --> 01:14:06,950 usual suspect sitting around talking 1633 01:14:12,850 --> 01:14:09,500 about what Roswell is that's exactly 1634 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:12,860 what a government warned us to do back 1635 01:14:21,090 --> 01:14:15,410 to Roswell to the churches and talk what 1636 01:14:26,470 --> 01:14:23,560 did you read Nick Redferns book Body 1637 01:14:28,750 --> 01:14:26,480 Snatchers in the desert no that's a 1638 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:28,760 pretty interesting theory that Japanese 1639 01:14:33,610 --> 01:14:30,890 prisoners of war were actually being 1640 01:14:35,860 --> 01:14:33,620 used as pilots for secret experiments 1641 01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:35,870 down there and that's who was mistaken 1642 01:14:46,290 --> 01:14:41,450 for four bodies has grown a life of its 1643 01:15:03,430 --> 01:15:00,700 lady Jacobsen and Josef Mengele no it 1644 01:15:05,290 --> 01:15:03,440 hasn't convinced me it's not at all it's 1645 01:15:06,729 --> 01:15:05,300 in fact it's done the opposite it's 1646 01:15:08,380 --> 01:15:06,739 convinced me that we're not dealing with 1647 01:15:09,850 --> 01:15:08,390 aliens from outer space so we're dealing 1648 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:09,860 with something that's more terrestrial 1649 01:15:15,700 --> 01:15:12,489 than we are you know what you're right 1650 01:15:19,959 --> 01:15:15,710 to escape our planet has been prison 1651 01:15:21,970 --> 01:15:19,969 here for roughly 55,000 years okay well 1652 01:15:23,530 --> 01:15:21,980 now you're just adding more assumptions 1653 01:15:25,570 --> 01:15:23,540 to the assumptions you've already added 1654 01:15:28,030 --> 01:15:25,580 but wait a minute why isn't a fifty four 1655 01:15:29,050 --> 01:15:28,040 point seven million year the thousand 1656 01:15:31,209 --> 01:15:29,060 years well might be 1657 01:15:33,729 --> 01:15:31,219 81 million years like in the TV show 1658 01:15:35,950 --> 01:15:33,739 Terra Nova hey let me tell our listeners 1659 01:15:41,690 --> 01:15:35,960 we've got Aaron Kaplan you're listening 1660 01:15:46,030 --> 01:15:43,810 [Music] 1661 01:15:49,340 --> 01:15:46,040 America's number one source for 1662 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01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:18,770 deep analysis frightening conclusion 1772 01:20:24,710 --> 01:20:21,930 with Gene and Chris um the para cast and 1773 01:20:27,050 --> 01:20:24,720 right now I'm still seeing here Aaron 1774 01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:27,060 you're tossing the life stuff out there 1775 01:20:30,950 --> 01:20:29,250 it's like throwing darts you know it's 1776 01:20:32,990 --> 01:20:30,960 kind of like I think American industry 1777 01:20:35,120 --> 01:20:33,000 does this too often they want to find 1778 01:20:36,890 --> 01:20:35,130 the next killer product do what they do 1779 01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:36,900 is they throw darts and the wall and 1780 01:20:40,670 --> 01:20:39,450 hope that one will hit the bull's eye so 1781 01:20:42,770 --> 01:20:40,680 it sounds to me like you're throwing 1782 01:20:44,420 --> 01:20:42,780 darts in the wall hoping to hit a bull's 1783 01:20:46,940 --> 01:20:44,430 eye but so far I don't see anything 1784 01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:46,950 hitting anything no what I'm trying to 1785 01:20:54,530 --> 01:20:49,890 do is refer to what the old the bunker 1786 01:20:56,420 --> 01:20:54,540 with the clustered on UFOs and I tried 1787 01:20:58,580 --> 01:20:56,430 to defuse would use government due to 1788 01:21:01,670 --> 01:20:58,590 all of us to make us laugh like that 1789 01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:01,680 Estela truth is very difficult the truth 1790 01:21:07,370 --> 01:21:05,490 is that it's entities came irrepressible 1791 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:07,380 fifty five thousand years ago in the 1792 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:09,570 days of Jared if you read The Book of 1793 01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:12,570 Enoch it tells specifically in the 1794 01:21:18,350 --> 01:21:14,850 Sumerian tablets the Nephilim Kenya 1795 01:21:20,180 --> 01:21:18,360 during the days of Jared and according 1796 01:21:22,490 --> 01:21:20,190 to the Sumerian tablets and the Dead Sea 1797 01:21:25,540 --> 01:21:22,500 Scrolls lately in the Kauai assistant 1798 01:21:28,340 --> 01:21:25,550 who's Jared was among the ten 1799 01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:28,350 great-grandparents of Noah if Adam says 1800 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:30,210 he knows kimimaro 1801 01:21:35,390 --> 01:21:33,330 Jared Enoch Methuselah Elisha Noah Noah 1802 01:21:38,110 --> 01:21:35,400 field of the scene according to very 1803 01:21:40,570 --> 01:21:38,120 strict Sumerian tablet it's Carson stone 1804 01:21:43,610 --> 01:21:40,580 exactly forty nine thousand years ago 1805 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:43,620 it's a fact that's written well maybe 1806 01:21:49,130 --> 01:21:46,530 it's a fake stone it's possible possible 1807 01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:49,140 zecharia sitchin is not considered to be 1808 01:21:55,330 --> 01:21:51,090 in you know academically he's not 1809 01:21:57,500 --> 01:21:55,340 considered to be you know a serious 1810 01:21:59,240 --> 01:21:57,510 sumerian ologist i mean the guy could 1811 01:22:02,120 --> 01:21:59,250 wreak you know for him and he just 1812 01:22:03,709 --> 01:22:02,130 simply you know he took the word sham 1813 01:22:07,939 --> 01:22:03,719 and reinterpreted 1814 01:22:10,580 --> 01:22:07,949 into a whole scenario involving rocket 1815 01:22:13,610 --> 01:22:10,590 ships and an aliens and stuff he is not 1816 01:22:15,830 --> 01:22:13,620 taken seriously by academia so just 1817 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:15,840 because Sitchin wrote something doesn't 1818 01:22:21,260 --> 01:22:18,810 make it the truth I'm I'm having a hard 1819 01:22:23,540 --> 01:22:21,270 time here I agree with you I've found 1820 01:22:25,610 --> 01:22:23,550 many errors in his books but those 1821 01:22:28,189 --> 01:22:25,620 sumerian tablets right now located 1822 01:22:30,979 --> 01:22:28,199 somewhere and then museum is berlin and 1823 01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:30,989 many other researchers interpret the 1824 01:22:36,890 --> 01:22:34,130 same writings should be sent days Noah 1825 01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:36,900 under the plane appeared a roughly forty 1826 01:22:41,420 --> 01:22:39,810 nine thousand years ago originally you 1827 01:22:43,580 --> 01:22:41,430 know again I think you're being really 1828 01:22:46,430 --> 01:22:43,590 super creative and I really applaud your 1829 01:22:48,530 --> 01:22:46,440 your your linking all these divergent 1830 01:22:51,650 --> 01:22:48,540 things together but this you know this 1831 01:22:54,350 --> 01:22:51,660 is not you it's it's conjecture there 1832 01:22:57,100 --> 01:22:54,360 you know you you you need to back this 1833 01:22:58,880 --> 01:22:57,110 stuff up I think a little better 1834 01:23:00,500 --> 01:22:58,890 obviously I would have liked to have 1835 01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:00,510 read the book before we had you on the 1836 01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:02,850 show so I could really be in tune with 1837 01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:05,280 with your information normally I do try 1838 01:23:09,590 --> 01:23:07,290 to do that but you know we did get you 1839 01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:09,600 on a little quick you let me tie 1840 01:23:15,709 --> 01:23:11,370 together you know what you never meant 1841 01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:15,719 to man you so complicated you government 1842 01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:17,850 and and some institutions like the 1843 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:21,600 Vatican religious institutions ice wine 1844 01:23:27,770 --> 01:23:24,330 the darkness to prevent that's right 1845 01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:27,780 after knowing the final truth but fire 1846 01:23:31,790 --> 01:23:29,520 but slowly slowly if you really try to 1847 01:23:34,010 --> 01:23:31,800 look through it put it all together 1848 01:23:35,810 --> 01:23:34,020 it'll come to you like a movie in front 1849 01:23:38,410 --> 01:23:35,820 of your eyes well you better be careful 1850 01:23:40,370 --> 01:23:38,420 you may you may have some men in black 1851 01:23:41,990 --> 01:23:40,380 cruising up to your door here pretty 1852 01:23:43,790 --> 01:23:42,000 quick if you're really onto something 1853 01:23:47,660 --> 01:23:43,800 here you better watch your back there 1854 01:23:52,610 --> 01:23:47,670 buddy a couple of years if I'm still 1855 01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:52,620 here I'm so same is those entities are 1856 01:23:59,330 --> 01:23:56,210 in prison here supposedly now supposedly 1857 01:24:01,400 --> 01:23:59,340 all those years that try to escape they 1858 01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:01,410 cannot escape because of the barrier 1859 01:24:08,420 --> 01:24:06,449 they can't escape myths and stories and 1860 01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:08,430 legends here you know how do you know 1861 01:24:14,630 --> 01:24:12,719 whether it's a fact that there are there 1862 01:24:17,300 --> 01:24:14,640 dis incarnate entities here that are 1863 01:24:21,380 --> 01:24:17,310 imprisoned here how is that a fact 1864 01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:21,390 you prove that that's wrong records - 1865 01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:22,770 records we record together some 1866 01:24:26,690 --> 01:24:24,000 different sources even though the 1867 01:24:31,340 --> 01:24:26,700 ancients no point to the same day the 1868 01:24:35,030 --> 01:24:31,350 same basic theme you know what I say 1869 01:24:37,700 --> 01:24:35,040 well it looks at this it's true what are 1870 01:24:39,530 --> 01:24:37,710 you gonna do well yeah good point 1871 01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:39,540 okay so you have three or four sources 1872 01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:42,000 that kind of indicate the same thing you 1873 01:24:46,970 --> 01:24:44,220 do have to stretch your imagination a 1874 01:24:49,610 --> 01:24:46,980 little bit to get through the cross 1875 01:24:56,900 --> 01:24:49,620 cultural interpretations and tie these 1876 01:24:58,730 --> 01:24:56,910 things together I mean again exactly so 1877 01:25:01,310 --> 01:24:58,740 you do have to stretch things a little 1878 01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:01,320 bit to make them fit but you know the 1879 01:25:04,820 --> 01:25:03,090 whole DNA thing I think it's it's a 1880 01:25:07,610 --> 01:25:04,830 fascinating concept it's a fascinating 1881 01:25:10,130 --> 01:25:07,620 idea but you know you got to be careful 1882 01:25:13,460 --> 01:25:10,140 with the way you you you present this 1883 01:25:17,510 --> 01:25:13,470 information as fact where it's it's you 1884 01:25:20,300 --> 01:25:17,520 know it is conjecture person hinata 1885 01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:20,310 found out okay now again it's 1886 01:25:24,440 --> 01:25:21,690 far-fetched but listen to I'm going to 1887 01:25:26,060 --> 01:25:24,450 say okay pay attention that's real hot 1888 01:25:28,100 --> 01:25:26,070 one it's important it's gonna sound 1889 01:25:30,070 --> 01:25:28,110 crazy but the attention are you familiar 1890 01:25:35,450 --> 01:25:30,080 name gene shoemaker 1891 01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:35,460 um yeah rings Bell okay you can try you 1892 01:25:39,650 --> 01:25:36,570 were the charge of NASA personnel 1893 01:25:42,920 --> 01:25:39,660 training them on the main project what 1894 01:25:44,990 --> 01:25:42,930 was called Project wanna time okay right 1895 01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:45,000 you trained them how to work on the moon 1896 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:48,000 to operate in the moon less gravity how 1897 01:25:51,580 --> 01:25:49,890 to walk how to look for things how to 1898 01:25:54,290 --> 01:25:51,590 find out things so forth 1899 01:25:56,510 --> 01:25:54,300 it was very closely misled put any age 1900 01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:56,520 with and we're close they're going to 1901 01:26:02,630 --> 01:25:59,520 like eight 1997 he died in the very 1902 01:26:06,110 --> 01:26:02,640 mysterious mysterious car accident in 1903 01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:06,120 Tanami desert in Australia England wife 1904 01:26:10,990 --> 01:26:08,090 owned the car he died she cannot survive 1905 01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:11,000 we imagine a lonely road to Australia 1906 01:26:16,850 --> 01:26:14,480 can hit by truck what a bigger it okay 1907 01:26:19,610 --> 01:26:16,860 Greg will coming to that I would see 1908 01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:19,620 it's obvious something is not very 1909 01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:21,450 Porter there but something else I can't 1910 01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:25,440 prove anything but it happened now he 1911 01:26:29,959 --> 01:26:28,560 must have found out something and I tell 1912 01:26:33,589 --> 01:26:29,969 you what I think you again you 1913 01:26:39,250 --> 01:26:33,599 you jumping to conclusions here anything 1914 01:26:41,779 --> 01:26:39,260 to back it up so you want to find out 1915 01:26:44,180 --> 01:26:41,789 okay didn't find out of any water in the 1916 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:44,190 moon or in mountains you look to the 1917 01:26:48,830 --> 01:26:45,690 astronaut so they returned from the 1918 01:26:50,959 --> 01:26:48,840 missions if you know it's most of the 1919 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:50,969 asteroids after the return the very 1920 01:26:57,109 --> 01:26:54,210 rarely gone public they keep to 1921 01:26:58,520 --> 01:26:57,119 themselves Buzz Aldrin you see him all 1922 01:27:01,069 --> 01:26:58,530 over the place Edgar Mitchell you see 1923 01:27:03,489 --> 01:27:01,079 him all over the place is a good - yes 1924 01:27:05,839 --> 01:27:03,499 but most you don't we don't speak much 1925 01:27:07,100 --> 01:27:05,849 they came back very disoriented confused 1926 01:27:09,700 --> 01:27:07,110 and so forth 1927 01:27:14,719 --> 01:27:09,710 now you're going to think he found out I 1928 01:27:19,100 --> 01:27:14,729 called Roswell number two I'll tell you 1929 01:27:21,529 --> 01:27:19,110 why I believe they were used many as 1930 01:27:24,379 --> 01:27:21,539 four they went to the moon now they 1931 01:27:26,259 --> 01:27:24,389 walked on the moon and return may have a 1932 01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:26,269 repeat males allegedly 1933 01:27:36,799 --> 01:27:30,090 very careful verse every year they even 1934 01:27:38,419 --> 01:27:36,809 used as guinea pigs certain teenage of 1935 01:27:42,649 --> 01:27:38,429 blood transfusions may be taking place 1936 01:27:46,069 --> 01:27:42,659 before the missions to use them what the 1937 01:27:50,989 --> 01:27:46,079 reaction would be to that barrier 1938 01:27:52,370 --> 01:27:50,999 respond the moon I say allegedly I get 1939 01:27:55,310 --> 01:27:52,380 very careful so don't sound like a 1940 01:27:58,520 --> 01:27:55,320 lunatic okay he might have found out 1941 01:28:01,729 --> 01:27:58,530 about it was going to spill the beans 1942 01:28:05,029 --> 01:28:01,739 this my findings I may be totally wrong 1943 01:28:05,989 --> 01:28:05,039 I agree with you but I think that's what 1944 01:28:12,919 --> 01:28:05,999 he found out 1945 01:28:14,359 --> 01:28:12,929 I call it was wrong number two you know 1946 01:28:19,580 --> 01:28:14,369 why you're calling it Roswell I mean 1947 01:28:22,850 --> 01:28:19,590 gosh you how about this please call it 1948 01:28:24,529 --> 01:28:22,860 anything but Roswell I am because I need 1949 01:28:27,290 --> 01:28:24,539 to get my calamine lotion out every time 1950 01:28:30,020 --> 01:28:27,300 I hear that I start it all right first 1951 01:28:31,719 --> 01:28:30,030 question the first flashes back in 47 1952 01:28:34,399 --> 01:28:31,729 were due to DNA acclaim 1953 01:28:35,899 --> 01:28:34,409 well I'm claiming that experiments on 1954 01:28:39,229 --> 01:28:35,909 our astronauts that walked in the moon 1955 01:28:40,879 --> 01:28:39,239 were also experiments in DNA they may 1956 01:28:43,729 --> 01:28:40,889 have known about it they may have 1957 01:28:46,310 --> 01:28:43,739 nothing or known about it do 1958 01:28:50,959 --> 01:28:46,320 men who were smart the neighborhood 1959 01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:50,969 grief I do not know I do not know but I 1960 01:28:56,330 --> 01:28:54,210 think you found out about it and he has 1961 01:29:00,140 --> 01:28:56,340 to be eliminated that's my theory 1962 01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:00,150 again allegedly may be totally totally 1963 01:29:07,310 --> 01:29:04,890 wrong I'll give you that much okay so 1964 01:29:09,950 --> 01:29:07,320 we're back to the whole idea the moon is 1965 01:29:14,060 --> 01:29:09,960 it has some sort of technology that is 1966 01:29:17,990 --> 01:29:14,070 quarantine the Nephilim and humans from 1967 01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:18,000 escaping outside of the you know our 1968 01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:20,610 little neighborhood here and before we 1969 01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:23,610 enter that neighborhood and hope it's 1970 01:29:29,630 --> 01:29:26,130 not the neighborhood that you see in the 1971 01:29:32,959 --> 01:29:29,640 Muppets program Sesame Street we're 1972 01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:32,969 talking to Aaron Kaplan with gene and 1973 01:29:43,299 --> 01:29:35,890 Chris you're in the barrack as 1974 01:29:49,239 --> 01:29:46,119 are you tired of searching for great 1975 01:29:53,199 --> 01:29:49,249 talk radio more important search no 1976 01:29:55,179 --> 01:29:53,209 world we are the GCM radio network 1977 01:29:57,309 --> 01:29:55,189 graphic converter is the 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--> 01:33:50,320 your life on a foods direct hello this 2061 01:33:55,020 --> 01:33:52,810 is John Broyles one of the witnesses 2062 01:33:57,480 --> 01:33:55,030 - Randall son you are far away incident 2063 01:34:01,719 --> 01:33:57,490 you're listening to the podcast the gold 2064 01:34:05,669 --> 01:34:03,640 neighbors AG I tell you before we 2065 01:34:08,319 --> 01:34:05,679 continue this is one of the more unusual 2066 01:34:12,219 --> 01:34:08,329 episodes we've ever presented of the 2067 01:34:14,199 --> 01:34:12,229 para cast our guest is Aaron Caplan he's 2068 01:34:16,930 --> 01:34:14,209 author of a book called deep analysis 2069 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:16,940 frightening conclusion with Chris and I 2070 01:34:21,189 --> 01:34:19,130 where we're trying to figure out where 2071 01:34:23,649 --> 01:34:21,199 this conclusion can take us and whether 2072 01:34:24,910 --> 01:34:23,659 there's any support for it Chris you 2073 01:34:26,589 --> 01:34:24,920 want to move into the threat a bit 2074 01:34:30,189 --> 01:34:26,599 further and let's see what Aaron has to 2075 01:34:32,229 --> 01:34:30,199 say I really like this this creative 2076 01:34:35,049 --> 01:34:32,239 thinking here I this is a kind of thing 2077 01:34:38,350 --> 01:34:35,059 that that really kind of gets me excited 2078 01:34:41,580 --> 01:34:38,360 because I love it when people look at at 2079 01:34:44,770 --> 01:34:41,590 what seemed to be you know unassociated 2080 01:34:47,290 --> 01:34:44,780 elements of a mystery and start to weave 2081 01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:47,300 them together and I think I applaud you 2082 01:34:52,299 --> 01:34:49,449 for your creative thinking on this but 2083 01:34:56,169 --> 01:34:52,309 you know you really need to die think 2084 01:34:58,449 --> 01:34:56,179 back this stuff up somehow you take some 2085 01:35:01,629 --> 01:34:58,459 of the elements that you can demonstrate 2086 01:35:03,850 --> 01:35:01,639 that there is a paper trail or there is 2087 01:35:06,459 --> 01:35:03,860 some documentation that is accepted by 2088 01:35:09,609 --> 01:35:06,469 the mainstream it's a good place to 2089 01:35:11,410 --> 01:35:09,619 start and then sort of work work your 2090 01:35:12,910 --> 01:35:11,420 investigative process from there but I 2091 01:35:14,709 --> 01:35:12,920 you want you to continue because I know 2092 01:35:17,500 --> 01:35:14,719 you have not gotten through your entire 2093 01:35:19,719 --> 01:35:17,510 your entire theory here and I think our 2094 01:35:22,359 --> 01:35:19,729 listeners are pretty intrigued about 2095 01:35:23,799 --> 01:35:22,369 what else you have tied together here 2096 01:35:27,129 --> 01:35:23,809 because this this is pretty interesting 2097 01:35:30,430 --> 01:35:27,139 stuff I must say Aaron okay 2098 01:35:34,000 --> 01:35:30,440 do you hear the course mission to the 2099 01:35:40,540 --> 01:35:34,010 moon they can October 9 2009 do which 2100 01:35:42,370 --> 01:35:40,550 now of course LCR always best mission is 2101 01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:42,380 that one they fired into the into the 2102 01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:48,170 crater right bingo the famous story to 2103 01:35:54,399 --> 01:35:51,650 the public was the definition is opposed 2104 01:35:58,509 --> 01:35:54,409 to located pocket water on the moon 2105 01:36:00,250 --> 01:35:58,519 right so something similar now let me 2106 01:36:02,500 --> 01:36:00,260 ask you a question okay 2107 01:36:05,529 --> 01:36:02,510 there was smart scientist you or human 2108 01:36:07,899 --> 01:36:05,539 being do we really have to send a 2109 01:36:09,989 --> 01:36:07,909 special rocket ship like that to the 2110 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:09,999 moon to prove there may be water there 2111 01:36:15,490 --> 01:36:14,570 know what I believe again I get it's my 2112 01:36:20,080 --> 01:36:15,500 research 2113 01:36:22,660 --> 01:36:20,090 thinking what I believe this the course 2114 01:36:28,570 --> 01:36:22,670 mission did were very very high 2115 01:36:31,870 --> 01:36:28,580 explosive strive to create a crater very 2116 01:36:37,690 --> 01:36:31,880 near that existing power plant on the 2117 01:36:41,290 --> 01:36:37,700 moon very nearly a big crater to bury 2118 01:36:43,180 --> 01:36:41,300 circle things all right Oh to cover up 2119 01:36:47,380 --> 01:36:43,190 to attack some equipment or cover it up 2120 01:36:50,140 --> 01:36:47,390 or something tell you and again you Joe 2121 01:36:52,510 --> 01:36:50,150 was gonna drop I know it is you member 2122 01:36:54,220 --> 01:36:52,520 with the Berlin Wall fell President 2123 01:36:55,990 --> 01:36:54,230 Reagan's said to put the crucial 2124 01:37:00,160 --> 01:36:56,000 whatever his name was break down this 2125 01:37:02,770 --> 01:37:00,170 wall he walked him down without one shot 2126 01:37:03,220 --> 01:37:02,780 being fired am i correct yeah very 2127 01:37:07,260 --> 01:37:03,230 strange 2128 01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:07,270 firstly why a few months later 2129 01:37:16,660 --> 01:37:13,930 so between gladly willingly told the US 2130 01:37:20,260 --> 01:37:16,670 and marathon skis please take our 2131 01:37:22,680 --> 01:37:20,270 nuclear wars away from us we afraid the 2132 01:37:27,010 --> 01:37:22,690 may fall hands of terrorists 2133 01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:27,020 my correct so far well that's a little a 2134 01:37:32,380 --> 01:37:29,170 bit of an oversimplification but yeah 2135 01:37:34,210 --> 01:37:32,390 okay we were supposed to destroy all 2136 01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:34,220 those warheads and a year ago to give us 2137 01:37:39,430 --> 01:37:37,010 another thousand water we all three 2138 01:37:45,610 --> 01:37:39,440 years ago we was supposed to destroy all 2139 01:37:48,880 --> 01:37:45,620 of em okay the question is where did all 2140 01:37:52,270 --> 01:37:48,890 the warheads what wound up now if you 2141 01:37:56,410 --> 01:37:52,280 have to have a good Merkin how many paid 2142 01:37:59,290 --> 01:37:56,420 shuttle missions do you fly in space or 2143 01:38:02,560 --> 01:37:59,300 how many moon missions that we did did 2144 01:38:06,310 --> 01:38:02,570 we do good I will shoot oh say 10 15 20 2145 01:38:08,440 --> 01:38:06,320 30 all right publicly well but 2146 01:38:13,530 --> 01:38:08,450 apparently our government is other basis 2147 01:38:16,750 --> 01:38:13,540 rather world that we're launching 2148 01:38:19,390 --> 01:38:16,760 rockets or spaceships from the exact 2149 01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:19,400 name of the bases are not very sure if 2150 01:38:24,520 --> 01:38:21,170 I'll say one there are more so not even 2151 01:38:26,290 --> 01:38:24,530 gonna mention them how can you back that 2152 01:38:28,750 --> 01:38:26,300 statement up I mean there is no record 2153 01:38:29,050 --> 01:38:28,760 of that except a very obscure reference 2154 01:38:31,900 --> 01:38:29,060 again 2155 01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:31,910 McKinnon dug up the hacker from England 2156 01:38:37,480 --> 01:38:35,090 about off-planet officers in the Navy I 2157 01:38:40,720 --> 01:38:37,490 mean other than that we have no evidence 2158 01:38:43,570 --> 01:38:40,730 at all zero zilch to indicate that we 2159 01:38:44,350 --> 01:38:43,580 have we're sort of at same way that we 2160 01:38:46,150 --> 01:38:44,360 were intimate 2161 01:38:47,830 --> 01:38:46,160 separation high jump ever existed I 2162 01:38:52,740 --> 01:38:47,840 understand it and said it 2163 01:38:55,210 --> 01:38:52,750 III know because stay with me what is 2164 01:38:58,150 --> 01:38:55,220 the water if it's very far - I 2165 01:39:01,900 --> 01:38:58,160 understand that it common names I accept 2166 01:39:03,220 --> 01:39:01,910 it what is all these warheads then 2167 01:39:04,500 --> 01:39:03,230 slowly give me gave us on a silver 2168 01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:04,510 platter 2169 01:39:11,620 --> 01:39:08,210 who never will never taken apart most 2170 01:39:14,980 --> 01:39:11,630 some of our own and one way or the other 2171 01:39:16,540 --> 01:39:14,990 now sit down on a chair put on a seat 2172 01:39:20,140 --> 01:39:16,550 belt understand what's coming from you 2173 01:39:26,140 --> 01:39:20,150 and many of our listeners what if all 2174 01:39:29,290 --> 01:39:26,150 these warheads wound up on the moon and 2175 01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:29,300 after of course mission there's greater 2176 01:39:33,460 --> 01:39:31,610 blow up on the moon I know I usually 2177 01:39:36,070 --> 01:39:33,470 background that's fine I expected that 2178 01:39:37,960 --> 01:39:36,080 Oh Wayne help me here man 2179 01:39:39,970 --> 01:39:37,970 Jean you gotta help me I don't 2180 01:39:43,330 --> 01:39:39,980 understand anything here about your 2181 01:39:46,570 --> 01:39:43,340 conclusions Aaron reaching a no-parent 2182 01:39:49,090 --> 01:39:46,580 place you're reaching a number of wacky 2183 01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:49,100 conclusions to be blunt about it that I 2184 01:39:56,710 --> 01:39:53,330 can't find any evidence in anything you 2185 01:39:59,940 --> 01:39:56,720 say that makes these links incredible 2186 01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:02,560 well please because we've already gone 2187 01:40:08,380 --> 01:40:05,090 through two thirds of this episode of 2188 01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:08,390 the para cast and you talk about sources 2189 01:40:14,110 --> 01:40:11,330 on the Internet is talk about loads of 2190 01:40:16,240 --> 01:40:14,120 different books and articles that seem 2191 01:40:18,790 --> 01:40:16,250 to be unrelated but where's the evidence 2192 01:40:21,700 --> 01:40:18,800 it ties it all together with a single 2193 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:21,710 knot or a double knot all those 2194 01:40:28,030 --> 01:40:23,810 explosives are supposedly allegedly 2195 01:40:31,030 --> 01:40:28,040 supposed to form one big warheads in 2196 01:40:35,830 --> 01:40:31,040 order to destroy the pop words in the 2197 01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:35,840 moon that is providing the power through 2198 01:40:41,540 --> 01:40:38,530 a barrier around the earth 2199 01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:44,240 remember that power plant was built by 2200 01:40:49,939 --> 01:40:47,760 an Aryan race the Anunnaki basically for 2201 01:40:51,950 --> 01:40:49,949 five years ahead of a 45 million years 2202 01:40:54,379 --> 01:40:51,960 ahead of us intelligence in scientists 2203 01:40:57,379 --> 01:40:54,389 wait a minute this is this is a theory 2204 01:41:00,020 --> 01:40:57,389 that was proposed by by a single author 2205 01:41:03,680 --> 01:41:00,030 and it's become pop culture sort of 2206 01:41:05,000 --> 01:41:03,690 legend now you know the only reference 2207 01:41:07,729 --> 01:41:05,010 I've been doing some searching while 2208 01:41:10,280 --> 01:41:07,739 we've been talking with you here and the 2209 01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:10,290 only evidence I can find of Rosenberg 2210 01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:13,199 reference to warships of space is from a 2211 01:41:20,649 --> 01:41:19,290 website called lunatic outpost so I'm 2212 01:41:24,589 --> 01:41:20,659 not sure is that where you got your 2213 01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:24,599 information I don't believe so I don't 2214 01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:25,489 believe so 2215 01:41:29,899 --> 01:41:27,690 but if you take your time after ready 2216 01:41:31,970 --> 01:41:29,909 sure over 40 areas and do more research 2217 01:41:33,530 --> 01:41:31,980 you need to send me your book and then I 2218 01:41:34,879 --> 01:41:33,540 need to read your book and then get get 2219 01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:34,889 you back on the air here because boy I 2220 01:41:39,740 --> 01:41:37,290 can be up to speed on your theory here 2221 01:41:40,899 --> 01:41:39,750 because you know I'm running out of 2222 01:41:47,180 --> 01:41:40,909 calamine lotion 2223 01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:47,190 all right project very Spartan a vehicle 2224 01:41:52,189 --> 01:41:49,170 to the movie made but very similar man 2225 01:41:54,229 --> 01:41:52,199 be careful fire in the sky it's called 2226 01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:54,239 fire from the sky and fire and destroy 2227 01:41:58,250 --> 01:41:55,770 well there's a fire in the sky which 2228 01:42:00,200 --> 01:41:58,260 talks about the Travis Walton abduction 2229 01:42:04,220 --> 01:42:00,210 but how does that tie into creatures 2230 01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:04,230 millions of years ago another title ok 2231 01:42:10,069 --> 01:42:07,530 fine is the name of the top secret 2232 01:42:10,819 --> 01:42:10,079 neighbor reports not from the sky but in 2233 01:42:14,390 --> 01:42:10,829 the sky 2234 01:42:18,530 --> 01:42:14,400 be very careful every happening of the 2235 01:42:20,479 --> 01:42:18,540 Navy a reoccurrence dude aircraft of 2236 01:42:23,470 --> 01:42:20,489 signals computations are in the report 2237 01:42:25,669 --> 01:42:23,480 and the Rosenberg had access to it 2238 01:42:27,740 --> 01:42:25,679 that's why the mention it during the 2239 01:42:31,120 --> 01:42:27,750 trial and as soon as you mentioned it 2240 01:42:33,890 --> 01:42:31,130 the jaws dropped or the persecution that 2241 01:42:38,810 --> 01:42:33,900 or within a few weeks 2242 01:42:39,859 --> 01:42:38,820 no sense that ok ok so let's as far as 2243 01:42:42,290 --> 01:42:39,869 this again all right 2244 01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:42,300 all right so there's a reference 2245 01:42:46,879 --> 01:42:44,010 supposedly to this particular 2246 01:42:52,910 --> 01:42:46,889 announcement that causes them to be 2247 01:42:54,649 --> 01:42:52,920 convicted you're saying well that goes 2248 01:42:55,310 --> 01:42:54,659 against every historical record I'm 2249 01:42:57,649 --> 01:42:55,320 aware of 2250 01:42:59,930 --> 01:42:57,659 your writers you'll never find it in 2251 01:43:02,359 --> 01:42:59,940 public saying well because they said 2252 01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:02,369 that we have to kill now well the other 2253 01:43:06,020 --> 01:43:03,690 thing is that we are looking for 2254 01:43:08,479 --> 01:43:06,030 compelling evidence they said that it'll 2255 01:43:09,260 --> 01:43:08,489 be on the records solid you'll find it 2256 01:43:11,330 --> 01:43:09,270 trust me 2257 01:43:13,430 --> 01:43:11,340 no the point is certain people are 2258 01:43:16,100 --> 01:43:13,440 buying your book because they want to 2259 01:43:17,959 --> 01:43:16,110 know what evidence you have and you 2260 01:43:20,419 --> 01:43:17,969 don't get that evidence by telling your 2261 01:43:21,859 --> 01:43:20,429 readers and our listeners go look for it 2262 01:43:23,839 --> 01:43:21,869 because I can go on the internet and 2263 01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:23,849 find all sorts of crazy theories and 2264 01:43:28,850 --> 01:43:25,650 some theories there aren't so crazy and 2265 01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:28,860 because something is published online or 2266 01:43:33,319 --> 01:43:30,719 in print doesn't make it true 2267 01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:33,329 so I'm still wondering about your 2268 01:43:37,310 --> 01:43:35,730 evidence it's so easily obtained well 2269 01:43:39,649 --> 01:43:37,320 we're seeing some pretty wacky things 2270 01:43:43,550 --> 01:43:39,659 like Chris was just doing a quick search 2271 01:43:45,919 --> 01:43:43,560 online and found a site containing crazy 2272 01:43:48,740 --> 01:43:45,929 theories and right now all I'm hearing 2273 01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:48,750 so far and I gotta tell you I'm hoping 2274 01:43:52,879 --> 01:43:51,360 I'm was hoping for more and that because 2275 01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:52,889 you and I went to the same high school a 2276 01:43:58,010 --> 01:43:55,650 few years apart or your last name was 2277 01:43:59,450 --> 01:43:58,020 the same as my wife's maiden name that's 2278 01:44:01,879 --> 01:43:59,460 not the reason I want to know more I'm 2279 01:44:04,729 --> 01:44:01,889 really curious here but at the same time 2280 01:44:06,919 --> 01:44:04,739 I don't want to seem as if I'm dropping 2281 01:44:08,930 --> 01:44:06,929 acid or taking drugs to have to perceive 2282 01:44:11,149 --> 01:44:08,940 what's going on here tell you what 2283 01:44:14,140 --> 01:44:11,159 neighbors we've had some pretty wild 2284 01:44:17,810 --> 01:44:14,150 theories on the ferric ass this may be 2285 01:44:19,580 --> 01:44:17,820 numero uno I'm not certain but we're 2286 01:44:22,189 --> 01:44:19,590 gonna persevere we're gonna continue 2287 01:44:25,930 --> 01:44:22,199 going with it we have Aaron Caplan with 2288 01:44:33,360 --> 01:44:25,940 gene and Chris you're in the para cast 2289 01:44:39,690 --> 01:44:36,660 the gcn radio network providing the 2290 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:39,700 world with hard-hitting talk radio G C 2291 01:44:45,480 --> 01:44:43,930 and great talk radio starts here hi this 2292 01:44:47,490 --> 01:44:45,490 is Ted Anderson if you'd like to listen 2293 01:44:49,590 --> 01:44:47,500 to juicy on programs on the goal I have 2294 01:44:51,990 --> 01:44:49,600 great news gzn has created a Droid and 2295 01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:52,000 iPhone application and it's free just as 2296 01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:53,890 easy as 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01:45:18,880 1986 yet the financial industry won't 2311 01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:20,500 recognize the value of gold for your 2312 01:45:24,060 --> 01:45:22,210 retirement gold has outperformed paper 2313 01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:24,070 investments yet don't worried about IRAs 2314 01:45:44,750 --> 01:45:25,690 if you would like to have gold for your 2315 01:45:53,089 --> 01:45:48,720 welcome back to the para cast the gold 2316 01:46:02,959 --> 01:46:00,830 now here's Jane Steinberg we have Aaron 2317 01:46:07,549 --> 01:46:02,969 Kaplan with gene and Chris in the final 2318 01:46:10,580 --> 01:46:07,559 hour of our cast and folks as you can 2319 01:46:12,500 --> 01:46:10,590 tell we're trying hard to understand the 2320 01:46:14,449 --> 01:46:12,510 conclusions that Aaron Caplan has 2321 01:46:17,869 --> 01:46:14,459 reached with deep analysis frightening 2322 01:46:20,989 --> 01:46:17,879 conclusion you know such as the high 2323 01:46:24,229 --> 01:46:20,999 jump operation with four sources but we 2324 01:46:27,199 --> 01:46:24,239 can't nail anything down hey man let me 2325 01:46:29,209 --> 01:46:27,209 tell you right now my head spinning 2326 01:46:31,729 --> 01:46:29,219 Chris's head is spinning we're trying to 2327 01:46:34,849 --> 01:46:31,739 understand what you present trying to 2328 01:46:37,459 --> 01:46:34,859 see your point of view and frankly 2329 01:46:39,919 --> 01:46:37,469 speaking I don't see your evidence yet 2330 01:46:43,969 --> 01:46:39,929 give me something that we can put our 2331 01:46:46,879 --> 01:46:43,979 fingers on Aaron one piece of evidence 2332 01:46:50,060 --> 01:46:46,889 we could look up in a responsible 2333 01:46:52,489 --> 01:46:50,070 respectable source and confirm this 2334 01:46:54,290 --> 01:46:52,499 tie-in exists I mean yes there have been 2335 01:46:56,629 --> 01:46:54,300 loads of articles about Roswell and 2336 01:46:58,159 --> 01:46:56,639 Aztec and the Kenneth Arnold sighting 2337 01:47:00,199 --> 01:46:58,169 and the Bermuda Triangle and all this 2338 01:47:03,169 --> 01:47:00,209 other stuff I mean something that ties 2339 01:47:04,489 --> 01:47:03,179 it together I'm waiting for it triangle 2340 01:47:06,109 --> 01:47:04,499 is nothing to do with my book I just 2341 01:47:09,049 --> 01:47:06,119 gave it as an example of where I was 2342 01:47:11,479 --> 01:47:09,059 that week and what I saw okay now what 2343 01:47:14,239 --> 01:47:11,489 piece of evidence one you will never 2344 01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:14,249 find it doesn't exist except accepting 2345 01:47:20,029 --> 01:47:17,489 me mentioning me mentioning the 2346 01:47:24,770 --> 01:47:20,039 symmetrical cameras that use daylight 2347 01:47:27,759 --> 01:47:24,780 film only the only thing that will do to 2348 01:47:31,189 --> 01:47:27,769 make me maybe one percent legitimate 2349 01:47:32,659 --> 01:47:31,199 this proves that Admiral Byrd was never 2350 01:47:35,389 --> 01:47:32,669 at the North Pole like our government 2351 01:47:37,159 --> 01:47:35,399 tells us he was at the South Pole all 2352 01:47:39,520 --> 01:47:37,169 right Ray Palmer wrote about that in the 2353 01:47:41,929 --> 01:47:39,530 1960s as evidence of the Hollow Earth 2354 01:47:45,349 --> 01:47:41,939 but you know some of that stuff is a 2355 01:47:47,719 --> 01:47:45,359 hoax you know that this diary entry 2356 01:47:51,589 --> 01:47:47,729 about his visit to the advanced 2357 01:47:53,629 --> 01:47:51,599 civilizations you know it's all out of 2358 01:47:56,089 --> 01:47:53,639 Edgar Rice Burroughs pellucid er novels 2359 01:47:58,189 --> 01:47:56,099 of the early part of the 20th century 2360 01:48:00,169 --> 01:47:58,199 was science fiction yeah well I found 2361 01:48:02,119 --> 01:48:00,179 fire from the sky it's called fire from 2362 01:48:05,179 --> 01:48:02,129 the sky Battle of the Harvest Moon and 2363 01:48:06,529 --> 01:48:05,189 choose story of space shuttle's authored 2364 01:48:09,169 --> 01:48:06,539 by quote one 2365 01:48:11,929 --> 01:48:09,179 who knows but if you keep researching 2366 01:48:16,399 --> 01:48:11,939 this name you'll find out it's a true 2367 01:48:17,989 --> 01:48:16,409 report but use maybe if you brute regime 2368 01:48:19,699 --> 01:48:17,999 all right where do we find that please 2369 01:48:21,289 --> 01:48:19,709 tell us where to find it our listeners 2370 01:48:23,509 --> 01:48:21,299 right now are going online 2371 01:48:26,029 --> 01:48:23,519 I know there are cars right now out 2372 01:48:27,709 --> 01:48:26,039 there listening to the playback of the 2373 01:48:30,039 --> 01:48:27,719 para cast or listening on their local 2374 01:48:34,129 --> 01:48:30,049 stations and there right now ready to 2375 01:48:36,319 --> 01:48:34,139 fly off the road we'll find a place 2376 01:48:39,229 --> 01:48:36,329 where they could stop a rest stop or 2377 01:48:42,229 --> 01:48:39,239 something break out their iPhones or 2378 01:48:43,939 --> 01:48:42,239 whatever phone they have or their iPad 2379 01:48:46,729 --> 01:48:43,949 if it has Internet connectivity and 2380 01:48:48,799 --> 01:48:46,739 they're trying to look up this evidence 2381 01:48:51,379 --> 01:48:48,809 tell them where to go where to find it 2382 01:48:53,659 --> 01:48:51,389 that I couldn't tell you because it's so 2383 01:48:55,339 --> 01:48:53,669 complicated you see that exactly it's 2384 01:48:57,500 --> 01:48:55,349 exactly what the US government is doing 2385 01:49:01,339 --> 01:48:57,510 that they don't want you to find any 2386 01:49:02,839 --> 01:49:01,349 evidence that's a great time okay so the 2387 01:49:05,359 --> 01:49:02,849 government is hiding the evidence but 2388 01:49:08,270 --> 01:49:05,369 Aaron Kaplan in His infinite wisdom 2389 01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:08,280 found at that evidence so tell me now 2390 01:49:12,139 --> 01:49:09,449 that you found it 2391 01:49:13,369 --> 01:49:12,149 point me to it don't don't just tell me 2392 01:49:15,559 --> 01:49:13,379 it's in the book and you got to read the 2393 01:49:16,879 --> 01:49:15,569 book I mean give me one piece of 2394 01:49:22,459 --> 01:49:16,889 evidence where is it 2395 01:49:25,219 --> 01:49:22,469 nothing it does exist gene does not 2396 01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:25,229 exist you gotta take all the layers 2397 01:49:30,319 --> 01:49:28,530 together so it's all or nothing form 2398 01:49:33,469 --> 01:49:30,329 it's all or nothing you're saying Aaron 2399 01:49:35,209 --> 01:49:33,479 right you're right on oh ok so we have 2400 01:49:37,369 --> 01:49:35,219 to accept everything you say or we can 2401 01:49:39,619 --> 01:49:37,379 believe none of it we can't just do the 2402 01:49:42,169 --> 01:49:39,629 normal process of assembling evidence 2403 01:49:44,959 --> 01:49:42,179 where you look at the evidence you 2404 01:49:47,569 --> 01:49:44,969 evaluate the evidence for evidence in 2405 01:49:50,629 --> 01:49:47,579 and of itself of credibility make sure 2406 01:49:53,000 --> 01:49:50,639 the information can be believed it's 2407 01:49:55,539 --> 01:49:53,010 authenticated and then having all that 2408 01:49:58,129 --> 01:49:55,549 information you tie it together but 2409 01:50:02,270 --> 01:49:58,139 everything you're telling me here seems 2410 01:50:07,419 --> 01:50:02,280 to fly apart so you can't produce one 2411 01:50:12,739 --> 01:50:10,399 was seen he was seen by hundreds of 2412 01:50:15,829 --> 01:50:12,749 sailors especially aboard aircraft 2413 01:50:20,859 --> 01:50:15,839 carrier the Philippine Sea On January 2414 01:50:23,780 --> 01:50:20,869 29th we took off 194 when public 2415 01:50:25,459 --> 01:50:23,790 that he may have gone to the South Pole 2416 01:50:28,069 --> 01:50:25,469 instead of the North Pole we don't have 2417 01:50:30,109 --> 01:50:28,079 to argue that point okay well we can 2418 01:50:32,839 --> 01:50:30,119 argue the point as to whether he went 2419 01:50:36,379 --> 01:50:32,849 into the Hollow Earth and yes we could 2420 01:50:39,500 --> 01:50:36,389 read the book by Walter siegmeister 2421 01:50:42,470 --> 01:50:39,510 alias Raymond Bernard about the Hollow 2422 01:50:44,899 --> 01:50:42,480 Earth we can look at rant Ray Palmer's 2423 01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:44,909 writings and read that you know what you 2424 01:50:49,430 --> 01:50:47,280 asked to read his logbook try to find 2425 01:50:51,890 --> 01:50:49,440 Admiral Byrd logbook which is half of 2426 01:50:55,459 --> 01:50:51,900 his diary the first step is truthful his 2427 01:50:58,490 --> 01:50:55,469 logbook there despiteful the first half 2428 01:51:00,410 --> 01:50:58,500 well if you could find a copy of that 2429 01:51:03,410 --> 01:51:00,420 once you shoot it off to me I'd love to 2430 01:51:08,180 --> 01:51:03,420 revisit it of course I remember from you 2431 01:51:11,839 --> 01:51:08,190 know 20 years ago hearing about this you 2432 01:51:13,459 --> 01:51:11,849 know this mythical diary which I did 2433 01:51:16,270 --> 01:51:13,469 some research and found out that it was 2434 01:51:20,030 --> 01:51:16,280 you know it was just not considered 2435 01:51:22,459 --> 01:51:20,040 legitimate so I would like to see these 2436 01:51:24,080 --> 01:51:22,469 logged logbook entries if you've got a 2437 01:51:28,729 --> 01:51:24,090 copies of them I'd like you to shoot 2438 01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:28,739 them off in my direction you'll be able 2439 01:51:33,140 --> 01:51:31,170 to find them so how do you know they 2440 01:51:35,800 --> 01:51:33,150 exist how do you know they exist if you 2441 01:51:43,609 --> 01:51:39,709 not only that what did I understand from 2442 01:51:45,020 --> 01:51:43,619 the old name of out there what about art 2443 01:51:47,450 --> 01:51:45,030 Bell was he have to do with anything 2444 01:51:51,939 --> 01:51:47,460 he's a talk show host I'm a talk show 2445 01:51:54,200 --> 01:51:51,949 host okay theoretically the grandson 2446 01:51:58,180 --> 01:51:54,210 supposedly was no bird supposedly 2447 01:52:02,930 --> 01:51:58,190 brought in the diary to his studio 2448 01:52:05,540 --> 01:52:02,940 sometimes the February of 1995 he said 2449 01:52:06,370 --> 01:52:05,550 this diary that I found to the father 2450 01:52:09,680 --> 01:52:06,380 left 2451 01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:09,690 give him the complete diary but most 2452 01:52:15,459 --> 01:52:12,690 people live in you okay so your evidence 2453 01:52:19,310 --> 01:52:15,469 of the existence of this diary is 2454 01:52:21,979 --> 01:52:19,320 someone that Art Bell interviewed 16 2455 01:52:27,250 --> 01:52:21,989 years ago on his radio show is that 2456 01:52:30,350 --> 01:52:27,260 correct what I think it was his son a 2457 01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:30,360 small part of it well nobody realized at 2458 01:52:33,740 --> 01:52:32,730 a time it is the first half of the diary 2459 01:52:36,830 --> 01:52:33,750 was 2460 01:52:39,290 --> 01:52:36,840 postal then is RealFlight book like it 2461 01:52:42,350 --> 01:52:39,300 was mentioned it says all six hours or 2462 01:52:43,820 --> 01:52:42,360 60 or 45 hours it was a slight book a 2463 01:52:47,660 --> 01:52:43,830 large loss 2464 01:52:49,300 --> 01:52:47,670 it was fudged but in Navy the change to 2465 01:52:51,680 --> 01:52:49,310 words I'll tell you what they are 2466 01:52:54,170 --> 01:52:51,690 so it you'll you'll never know would 2467 01:52:56,930 --> 01:52:54,180 really happen but they say is please 2468 01:52:58,750 --> 01:52:56,940 diary you've changed only two words and 2469 01:53:02,660 --> 01:52:58,760 a whole diary to use government or maybe 2470 01:53:06,650 --> 01:53:02,670 they changed the word from South Laurel 2471 01:53:08,840 --> 01:53:06,660 and Arctic for target if you collect 2472 01:53:10,940 --> 01:53:08,850 every word in the diary on the process 2473 01:53:14,720 --> 01:53:10,950 and what happened to him you'll see that 2474 01:53:17,000 --> 01:53:14,730 he it connects exactly to the year to 2475 01:53:18,860 --> 01:53:17,010 the month to the week per day to the 2476 01:53:21,470 --> 01:53:18,870 hour to the middle to the second what 2477 01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:21,480 would really happen but without the guy 2478 01:53:25,870 --> 01:53:23,850 who without without a copy of the diary 2479 01:53:29,150 --> 01:53:25,880 or the diary how do we know that's true 2480 01:53:32,830 --> 01:53:29,160 we don't it means many species 2481 01:53:36,290 --> 01:53:32,840 afterwards in Argentina aboard ships 2482 01:53:39,530 --> 01:53:36,300 what's happened to him Annie MacLean was 2483 01:53:41,860 --> 01:53:39,540 very famous speech allusion Uruguay that 2484 01:53:44,060 --> 01:53:41,870 I unduly don't threaten you but we have 2485 01:53:46,580 --> 01:53:44,070 spacecraft series I can fly across the 2486 01:53:48,290 --> 01:53:46,590 earth in minutes he said the route was 2487 01:53:50,870 --> 01:53:48,300 funny time pole to pole right yeah 2488 01:53:52,220 --> 01:53:50,880 that's a famous quote yeah yeah and a 2489 01:53:55,490 --> 01:53:52,230 few months later he was locked up in 2490 01:53:57,290 --> 01:53:55,500 some hospital and him he died in there 2491 01:53:59,030 --> 01:53:57,300 together to the secretary with negative 2492 01:54:02,480 --> 01:53:59,040 committed suicide rates for still a lot 2493 01:54:05,060 --> 01:54:02,490 of people I mean everybody died come up 2494 01:54:08,270 --> 01:54:05,070 to the other no evidence rabbi to push 2495 01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:08,280 the phone so on well correct me if I'm 2496 01:54:13,340 --> 01:54:10,410 wrong but wasn't bird son somehow 2497 01:54:18,530 --> 01:54:13,350 involved in the the initial story about 2498 01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:18,540 the diary well I seem to remember on his 2499 01:54:23,450 --> 01:54:20,400 sorrows the grandson brought a diary to 2500 01:54:24,860 --> 01:54:23,460 art Bell rivalry sure why right okay 2501 01:54:27,230 --> 01:54:24,870 that's that's where their story I 2502 01:54:31,210 --> 01:54:27,240 remember it began to get legs but I I 2503 01:54:34,340 --> 01:54:31,220 don't recall it really getting the 2504 01:54:38,090 --> 01:54:34,350 attraction it was just considered as 2505 01:54:41,060 --> 01:54:38,100 some kind of weird one-off that it never 2506 01:54:44,780 --> 01:54:41,070 really went anywhere and you know again 2507 01:54:47,380 --> 01:54:44,790 you need to be able to demonstrate some 2508 01:54:50,140 --> 01:54:47,390 sort of documentation some some 2509 01:54:52,750 --> 01:54:50,150 give us something you know it's a great 2510 01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:52,760 theory I know where you go did all this 2511 01:54:57,130 --> 01:54:54,890 and it's a great theory but it's it's 2512 01:54:58,930 --> 01:54:57,140 science fiction until you can you can 2513 01:55:01,720 --> 01:54:58,940 prove it's factual it's science fiction 2514 01:55:04,960 --> 01:55:01,730 well you're one more critical to one 2515 01:55:07,420 --> 01:55:04,970 more the name of Amadeo Giannini sound 2516 01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:07,430 familiar to you you wrote a book but in 2517 01:55:13,630 --> 01:55:10,960 1959 called the world beyond the pole 2518 01:55:15,340 --> 01:55:13,640 okay we're a number of books written in 2519 01:55:18,160 --> 01:55:15,350 those years and we'll get to that worlds 2520 01:55:20,560 --> 01:55:18,170 beyond the poles and all these Hollow 2521 01:55:22,810 --> 01:55:20,570 Earth books that seem to be descendants 2522 01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:22,820 of Edgar Rice Burroughs and his science 2523 01:55:26,590 --> 01:55:24,770 fiction we'll get that we have Aaron 2524 01:55:29,110 --> 01:55:26,600 Caplan the book is deep analysis 2525 01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:29,120 frightening conclusion we're exploring 2526 01:55:34,640 --> 01:55:31,010 those conclusions and the evidence with 2527 01:55:41,530 --> 01:55:34,650 Jean and Chris you're in the para cast 2528 01:55:46,780 --> 01:55:43,930 so here's what happened I was placing an 2529 01:55:49,180 --> 01:55:46,790 order online the site went down it just 2530 01:55:50,860 --> 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on past 2641 02:00:03,029 --> 01:59:59,980 episodes we have hundreds of shows for 2642 02:00:04,859 --> 02:00:03,039 you to download direct from the para 2643 02:00:09,870 --> 02:00:04,869 cast calm 2644 02:00:14,939 --> 02:00:09,880 that's the para cast dot-com or check us 2645 02:00:16,649 --> 02:00:14,949 out at iTunes okay I don't know if we're 2646 02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:16,659 in the Hollow Earth with this episode 2647 02:00:21,959 --> 02:00:19,210 folks I think right now we're in 2648 02:00:25,169 --> 02:00:21,969 pellucid R which is if you ever read the 2649 02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:25,179 novels from Edgar Rice Burroughs is the 2650 02:00:32,100 --> 02:00:28,090 world with a Great Central Sun with 2651 02:00:34,799 --> 02:00:32,110 prehistoric creatures beneath the 2652 02:00:36,899 --> 02:00:34,809 surface of the earth our author is Aaron 2653 02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:36,909 Kaplan the book is deep analysis 2654 02:00:41,310 --> 02:00:38,770 frightening conclusion you're about to 2655 02:00:45,029 --> 02:00:41,320 present something else beyond Admiral 2656 02:00:47,700 --> 02:00:45,039 Byrd what's this about there's an oral 2657 02:00:49,740 --> 02:00:47,710 book called world beyond the poles this 2658 02:00:52,500 --> 02:00:49,750 book was opposed to this claim I repeat 2659 02:00:53,220 --> 02:00:52,510 this claim Admiral Byrd to make him look 2660 02:00:55,620 --> 02:00:53,230 at a fool 2661 02:00:58,020 --> 02:00:55,630 how can we personally that this person 2662 02:01:00,180 --> 02:00:58,030 was hired by the US government to 2663 02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:00,190 publish the book I tell you why you know 2664 02:01:04,740 --> 02:01:03,130 who a material Giannini really is at 2665 02:01:05,939 --> 02:01:04,750 this point of the game I'm not sure hard 2666 02:01:08,669 --> 02:01:05,949 to send myself but I'll tell you what I 2667 02:01:11,700 --> 02:01:08,679 found out way way back did you know this 2668 02:01:14,580 --> 02:01:11,710 family would original owners or maybe 2669 02:01:16,109 --> 02:01:14,590 still owned in secrets behind the scenes 2670 02:01:17,879 --> 02:01:16,119 like all today yes we want the casino 2671 02:01:20,040 --> 02:01:17,889 all they do they do they do 2672 02:01:22,140 --> 02:01:20,050 nobody knows where they wallet are well 2673 02:01:24,600 --> 02:01:22,150 you know what casinos in Las Vegas today 2674 02:01:26,700 --> 02:01:24,610 are mostly owned by corporations and we 2675 02:01:28,890 --> 02:01:26,710 do know who they are for the real deals 2676 02:01:30,810 --> 02:01:28,900 about to be made to the board rooms are 2677 02:01:34,169 --> 02:01:30,820 made in a little deli in Brooklyn behind 2678 02:01:35,850 --> 02:01:34,179 closed doors or broken bread so I'm 2679 02:01:39,270 --> 02:01:35,860 saying here is a medallion Eenie 2680 02:01:42,299 --> 02:01:39,280 released family are the real way back at 2681 02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:42,309 least 1359 were the original owners of 2682 02:01:47,430 --> 02:01:45,010 the Bank of America and all of the 2683 02:01:50,129 --> 02:01:47,440 government favor today so far so far 2684 02:01:53,040 --> 02:01:50,139 they are all investigations until a few 2685 02:01:57,870 --> 02:01:53,050 weeks ago the favorite very strongly 2686 02:01:58,530 --> 02:01:57,880 the Bank of America no I know I know I 2687 02:02:01,200 --> 02:01:58,540 know I know 2688 02:02:04,470 --> 02:02:01,210 but again to use in their name back in 2689 02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:04,480 59 was rich persuasion to publish the 2690 02:02:07,950 --> 02:02:07,090 book to this claim Admiral Byrd I'm not 2691 02:02:09,870 --> 02:02:07,960 saying anything 2692 02:02:12,180 --> 02:02:09,880 but I'm against resulting certain 2693 02:02:14,190 --> 02:02:12,190 evidence you know what you're not 2694 02:02:16,200 --> 02:02:14,200 presenting evidence I don't see this as 2695 02:02:17,400 --> 02:02:16,210 evidence just because somebody writes 2696 02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:17,410 something in a book or a magazine 2697 02:02:21,330 --> 02:02:19,450 article that you read somewhere that's 2698 02:02:22,830 --> 02:02:21,340 not evidence of anything I mean I can 2699 02:02:23,820 --> 02:02:22,840 write something tomorrow I write science 2700 02:02:25,770 --> 02:02:23,830 fiction I really do 2701 02:02:27,900 --> 02:02:25,780 I've written commercial science fiction 2702 02:02:29,850 --> 02:02:27,910 but I do not pretend I don't pretend 2703 02:02:33,750 --> 02:02:29,860 Aaron that the science fiction that I 2704 02:02:35,490 --> 02:02:33,760 write is real yeah we weave in factual 2705 02:02:37,860 --> 02:02:35,500 elements into the science fiction makes 2706 02:02:42,510 --> 02:02:37,870 it seem more credible lots of authors do 2707 02:02:45,330 --> 02:02:42,520 that they claim Byrd's 2708 02:02:47,520 --> 02:02:45,340 findings we don't know that he had those 2709 02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:47,530 findings we know that there's a story 2710 02:02:51,090 --> 02:02:49,810 that he had those findings but we don't 2711 02:02:54,030 --> 02:02:51,100 know and just because somebody wrote 2712 02:02:56,100 --> 02:02:54,040 some wacky book in the 1950s there were 2713 02:02:58,100 --> 02:02:56,110 a number of wacky Hollow Earth books 2714 02:03:01,230 --> 02:02:58,110 there were a number of books about 2715 02:03:05,340 --> 02:03:01,240 Admiral Byrd as I said Ray Palmer in 2716 02:03:07,050 --> 02:03:05,350 flying saucers magazine wrote and rehash 2717 02:03:09,120 --> 02:03:07,060 a lot of this stuff but Ray Palmer was 2718 02:03:11,880 --> 02:03:09,130 the kind of person who would bring up 2719 02:03:12,630 --> 02:03:11,890 something controversial just to provoke 2720 02:03:16,620 --> 02:03:12,640 discussion 2721 02:03:17,790 --> 02:03:16,630 not that he below magazines sure you 2722 02:03:23,100 --> 02:03:17,800 remember dissidents and all these 2723 02:03:25,200 --> 02:03:23,110 magazines are missing truckloads when 2724 02:03:27,060 --> 02:03:25,210 one weekend most of his magazines are 2725 02:03:28,440 --> 02:03:27,070 missing for the trucks they couldn't 2726 02:03:31,110 --> 02:03:28,450 find them and he historian there 2727 02:03:34,260 --> 02:03:31,120 regarding Admiral Byrd the UFOs they 2728 02:03:35,520 --> 02:03:34,270 also happen to him I believe oh I can 2729 02:03:35,970 --> 02:03:35,530 tell you lots of stories about Ray 2730 02:03:43,170 --> 02:03:35,980 Palmer 2731 02:03:45,660 --> 02:03:43,180 I remember where he alleged that he was 2732 02:03:47,160 --> 02:03:45,670 going to print an issue of amazing 2733 02:03:48,390 --> 02:03:47,170 stories magazine I don't even know was 2734 02:03:51,630 --> 02:03:48,400 still being published famous science 2735 02:03:53,610 --> 02:03:51,640 fiction magazine invented in the 1920s 2736 02:03:56,690 --> 02:03:53,620 he was at if you're in the 40s gonna 2737 02:03:59,100 --> 02:03:56,700 have an edition in which he proved 2738 02:04:00,900 --> 02:03:59,110 supposedly that what if Richard shaver 2739 02:04:03,900 --> 02:04:00,910 was claiming about the Hollow Earth was 2740 02:04:06,720 --> 02:04:03,910 true and supposedly somebody tried to 2741 02:04:08,460 --> 02:04:06,730 deliberately chase him down in his car 2742 02:04:10,530 --> 02:04:08,470 and crash into them I mean Palmer told 2743 02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:10,540 me lots of crazy stories like that he 2744 02:04:14,790 --> 02:04:13,090 wrote stories in his magazine it doesn't 2745 02:04:16,140 --> 02:04:14,800 mean we have to take it as true doesn't 2746 02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:16,150 mean we have to accept them you're 2747 02:04:22,070 --> 02:04:19,210 accepting some of this stuff as allowing 2748 02:04:24,900 --> 02:04:22,080 you to weave this convoluted theory of 2749 02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:24,910 if I read correctly on your site we've 2750 02:04:29,610 --> 02:04:26,410 got the Nazca lines 2751 02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:29,620 we've got ancient history we've got the 2752 02:04:34,320 --> 02:04:31,570 Bible we've got Roswell 2753 02:04:36,390 --> 02:04:34,330 we've got tag and we're all trying it 2754 02:04:39,090 --> 02:04:36,400 together and Ethel in did it not blow 2755 02:04:40,710 --> 02:04:39,100 through Nephilim that's not true that's 2756 02:04:47,460 --> 02:04:40,720 a lie but I'm not gonna go into it too 2757 02:04:48,690 --> 02:04:47,470 complicated I have no idea what you're 2758 02:04:50,010 --> 02:04:48,700 talking about it just seems like you're 2759 02:04:51,479 --> 02:04:50,020 just tossing a lot of stuff out there 2760 02:04:56,310 --> 02:04:51,489 you did say something about the Nazca 2761 02:04:58,290 --> 02:04:56,320 lines right yeah okay let's stop my the 2762 02:05:04,040 --> 02:04:58,300 Nazca lines just very briefly supposedly 2763 02:05:06,900 --> 02:05:04,050 you have these drawings on the land 2764 02:05:09,540 --> 02:05:06,910 which can only be seen from the sky and 2765 02:05:11,160 --> 02:05:09,550 this is in Peru now I can tell you one 2766 02:05:13,229 --> 02:05:11,170 quick story about that the lady on a 2767 02:05:15,210 --> 02:05:13,239 Fortner who was someone who wrote about 2768 02:05:18,180 --> 02:05:15,220 ancient astronauts back in the 50s and 2769 02:05:21,180 --> 02:05:18,190 60s and was a close friend of Jim Mosely 2770 02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:21,190 he went to see the Nazca lines and he 2771 02:05:24,450 --> 02:05:22,570 said you could just climb up a ladder 2772 02:05:25,950 --> 02:05:24,460 and see what they look like you didn't 2773 02:05:29,370 --> 02:05:25,960 have to be in the sky so there they go 2774 02:05:30,780 --> 02:05:29,380 well they also found graves with I think 2775 02:05:32,670 --> 02:05:30,790 they were called the kite flyers these 2776 02:05:36,690 --> 02:05:32,680 guys would actually get in these giant 2777 02:05:38,670 --> 02:05:36,700 kites and and fly above the the plane 2778 02:05:40,830 --> 02:05:38,680 they're back you know when they were 2779 02:05:42,300 --> 02:05:40,840 when they were constructed here's my 2780 02:05:45,240 --> 02:05:42,310 theory but unless the lines real quick 2781 02:05:47,100 --> 02:05:45,250 okay and again the a through the grain 2782 02:05:48,720 --> 02:05:47,110 of salt originally according through 2783 02:05:51,170 --> 02:05:48,730 Sumerian tablets when the planet Eire 2784 02:05:54,690 --> 02:05:51,180 much was destroyed supposedly now 2785 02:05:58,830 --> 02:05:54,700 allegedly I'm claiming in my book to be 2786 02:06:00,570 --> 02:05:58,840 destroyed by the Sun over Anke mark the 2787 02:06:03,810 --> 02:06:00,580 weapon II had called spear decimate pine 2788 02:06:06,330 --> 02:06:03,820 there's one thing that weapon will hit 2789 02:06:06,840 --> 02:06:06,340 the planet Eire much it was fired in 2790 02:06:09,990 --> 02:06:06,850 haste 2791 02:06:13,590 --> 02:06:10,000 EMI to destroyed however that race 2792 02:06:16,920 --> 02:06:13,600 somehow mysteriously muscled hit the 2793 02:06:19,650 --> 02:06:16,930 planet Mars by accident fifty five 2794 02:06:20,580 --> 02:06:19,660 thousand years ago on that date Mars 2795 02:06:23,010 --> 02:06:20,590 lost 2796 02:06:27,810 --> 02:06:23,020 most of its waters and its inhabitants 2797 02:06:31,470 --> 02:06:27,820 had to escape now those inhabitants look 2798 02:06:35,100 --> 02:06:31,480 just like us but slightly different the 2799 02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:35,110 skin color was more whitish they landed 2800 02:06:39,540 --> 02:06:37,690 here on earth in rocket ships now down 2801 02:06:42,209 --> 02:06:39,550 on Aki's they're giant you opposed 2802 02:06:44,370 --> 02:06:42,219 jararaca spaceship do not produce smoke 2803 02:06:46,680 --> 02:06:44,380 and fire rocket ships ooh 2804 02:06:51,030 --> 02:06:46,690 and that's the reason also while we had 2805 02:06:54,089 --> 02:06:51,040 the mass migrations of us from Europe to 2806 02:06:57,470 --> 02:06:54,099 South America the route entire thing 2807 02:07:01,439 --> 02:06:57,480 the original Earthlings became the the 2808 02:07:04,500 --> 02:07:01,449 Mayans and 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02:13:23,190 that would suggest that Mars has been 2948 02:13:32,189 --> 02:13:26,530 anything but a dead planet for millions 2949 02:13:36,270 --> 02:13:32,199 of years so says a lot of scientists at 2950 02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:36,280 JPL and well dr. John Brandenburg we've 2951 02:13:39,450 --> 02:13:37,930 had on the show a couple of times one 2952 02:13:42,840 --> 02:13:39,460 that discovered there was a huge ocean 2953 02:13:45,240 --> 02:13:42,850 on Mars and came up with a theory of a 2954 02:13:47,580 --> 02:13:45,250 some sort of nuclear event that occurred 2955 02:13:50,150 --> 02:13:47,590 What did he say I think 1.5 billion 2956 02:13:53,310 --> 02:13:50,160 years ago Jean I forget the numbers but 2957 02:13:56,939 --> 02:13:53,320 you know really Erin you know when you 2958 02:14:00,380 --> 02:13:56,949 say dr. Aphra by the spacecraft called 2959 02:14:02,670 --> 02:14:00,390 New Horizons okay very important 2960 02:14:06,689 --> 02:14:02,680 spacecraft called New Horizons was 2961 02:14:11,130 --> 02:14:06,699 launched in January 19 2006 let 2962 02:14:15,300 --> 02:14:11,140 spacecraft 102 asteroid belts okay it is 2963 02:14:19,350 --> 02:14:15,310 - super instrument about one called 2964 02:14:22,640 --> 02:14:19,360 Alice one Calissa le is a debt 2965 02:14:28,160 --> 02:14:22,650 instrument supposed to measure molecules 2966 02:14:30,510 --> 02:14:28,170 of water to precise DNA of molecules 2967 02:14:33,030 --> 02:14:30,520 this place where one could ask - 2968 02:14:36,770 --> 02:14:33,040 asteroid belt but me did the precise DNA 2969 02:14:40,020 --> 02:14:36,780 of molecules could you explain that 2970 02:14:43,070 --> 02:14:40,030 everything is a DNA for the slide for 2971 02:14:45,600 --> 02:14:43,080 water the day which I original the water 2972 02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:45,610 how much percentage of hydrogen in the 2973 02:14:50,310 --> 02:14:48,010 water that type salt water sweet water 2974 02:14:53,600 --> 02:14:50,320 whatever the water is made of he'll tell 2975 02:14:58,200 --> 02:14:53,610 you thank you today millions power okay 2976 02:15:02,040 --> 02:14:58,210 let's say so you're saying water has DNA 2977 02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:02,050 maybe the wrong word to use okay yeah 2978 02:15:08,400 --> 02:15:05,770 right right tell people is the tensile 2979 02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:08,410 it will who measured the essence the 2980 02:15:14,550 --> 02:15:11,530 exact essence of the water which 2981 02:15:17,550 --> 02:15:14,560 composed the words came from well one 2982 02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:17,560 could actual belt I found two distinct 2983 02:15:25,860 --> 02:15:22,570 separate waterfalls we wanted the 2984 02:15:29,610 --> 02:15:25,870 closest to the planet Mars mixed with 2985 02:15:33,720 --> 02:15:29,620 soil sample took a fly into space was 2986 02:15:37,680 --> 02:15:33,730 sweet water pure sweet water one flying 2987 02:15:40,229 --> 02:15:37,690 outside - drew dealt we found traces of 2988 02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:40,239 pure salt water okay 2989 02:15:46,260 --> 02:15:43,810 that was reported back to NASA labs 2990 02:15:49,650 --> 02:15:46,270 again the spacecraft is called New 2991 02:15:53,130 --> 02:15:49,660 Horizons and two instruments aboard 2992 02:15:56,490 --> 02:15:53,140 throw five instruments aboard verify 2993 02:15:59,700 --> 02:15:56,500 name Pepsi Laurie Alice Alicia one more 2994 02:16:00,180 --> 02:15:59,710 I'm strictly talking about Alice and 2995 02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:00,190 Lisa 2996 02:16:06,420 --> 02:16:03,610 Eliza which are we call it NASA 2997 02:16:11,370 --> 02:16:06,430 laboratory found out the sweet water 2998 02:16:13,410 --> 02:16:11,380 samples exactly from from back through 2999 02:16:16,550 --> 02:16:13,420 felt closer to the planet Mars meshed 3000 02:16:21,540 --> 02:16:16,560 exactly the answer soda water 3001 02:16:25,410 --> 02:16:21,550 found traces but a Mars land rover a few 3002 02:16:27,900 --> 02:16:25,420 years ago identical readings to the 3003 02:16:33,330 --> 02:16:27,910 molecule they will call me crazy 3004 02:16:35,969 --> 02:16:33,340 go ahead that's fine well you know I do 3005 02:16:38,250 --> 02:16:35,979 remember the new horizon launch I think 3006 02:16:41,009 --> 02:16:38,260 it's a headed to Pluto if I'm if I 3007 02:16:44,660 --> 02:16:41,019 remember correctly right they happen to 3008 02:16:47,580 --> 02:16:44,670 do some spectrographic and ultraviolet 3009 02:16:50,459 --> 02:16:47,590 observations on their way there and they 3010 02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:50,469 did detect some interesting findings I 3011 02:16:56,250 --> 02:16:54,010 don't know what those finally I will I 3012 02:16:57,780 --> 02:16:56,260 will definitely look into this but again 3013 02:17:00,860 --> 02:16:57,790 we're jumping all over the place here 3014 02:17:03,810 --> 02:17:00,870 you know you're claiming that you know 3015 02:17:06,450 --> 02:17:03,820 qiyamat they missed trying to blow TM on 3016 02:17:08,219 --> 02:17:06,460 up and they hit Mars and and then the 3017 02:17:10,080 --> 02:17:08,229 Martians came here fifty five thousand 3018 02:17:11,979 --> 02:17:10,090 years ago I mean you might as well be 3019 02:17:14,769 --> 02:17:11,989 telling me that there's no such thing as 3020 02:17:16,959 --> 02:17:14,779 evolution in that this is all you know 3021 02:17:18,249 --> 02:17:16,969 some sort of creative design or 3022 02:17:20,949 --> 02:17:18,259 something I mean it makes as much sense 3023 02:17:22,779 --> 02:17:20,959 to me as that I'm really having like 3024 02:17:24,759 --> 02:17:22,789 wrapping my head around this air and I 3025 02:17:27,609 --> 02:17:24,769 really gotta be on you right gene you're 3026 02:17:31,119 --> 02:17:27,619 right Aaron that's Chris please continue 3027 02:17:34,059 --> 02:17:31,129 I'm sorry we concerned human race week 3028 02:17:36,669 --> 02:17:34,069 we strictly a pet project PG a pet 3029 02:17:39,909 --> 02:17:36,679 project of the Anunnaki that's all we 3030 02:17:43,149 --> 02:17:39,919 are we have head projects we are 3031 02:17:45,369 --> 02:17:43,159 successful maybe didn't buy it you 3032 02:17:46,809 --> 02:17:45,379 bought very well I don't know if the how 3033 02:17:48,579 --> 02:17:46,819 successful they are if you look at 3034 02:17:51,069 --> 02:17:48,589 what's going on in Washington DC right 3035 02:17:55,179 --> 02:17:51,079 now and all that violence on the planet 3036 02:17:58,869 --> 02:17:55,189 and the misogynist attitudes of of half 3037 02:18:01,539 --> 02:17:58,879 the planet rampant you know impact on 3038 02:18:03,249 --> 02:18:01,549 the environment and you know just awful 3039 02:18:05,799 --> 02:18:03,259 stuff going on yeah they're pretty 3040 02:18:07,599 --> 02:18:05,809 successful but can I read you some real 3041 02:18:11,349 --> 02:18:07,609 quick listen to this 3042 02:18:13,199 --> 02:18:11,359 the gravity Mars is supposed to be 38% 3043 02:18:17,409 --> 02:18:13,209 that over okay 3044 02:18:20,729 --> 02:18:17,419 supposedly literally do one curve one 3045 02:18:25,359 --> 02:18:20,739 verse from Genesis chapter 5 verse 29 3046 02:18:28,869 --> 02:18:25,369 you you hear that and he called his name 3047 02:18:32,169 --> 02:18:28,879 Noah saying this one will comfort us 3048 02:18:35,619 --> 02:18:32,179 concerning our work and the toil of our 3049 02:18:37,899 --> 02:18:35,629 hands because of the ground that our 3050 02:18:41,829 --> 02:18:37,909 Lord has cursed well that basically 3051 02:18:46,149 --> 02:18:41,839 saying we just got here and it's so hard 3052 02:18:49,149 --> 02:18:46,159 to live here why simple because the 3053 02:18:51,909 --> 02:18:49,159 gravity of Mars really came from was 38 3054 02:18:53,919 --> 02:18:51,919 percent of the work that's my 3055 02:18:57,009 --> 02:18:53,929 interpretation again I could be totally 3056 02:18:59,199 --> 02:18:57,019 wrong now maybe that explains why women 3057 02:19:03,729 --> 02:18:59,209 have to deal with gravity as they get 3058 02:19:06,189 --> 02:19:03,739 older maybe you think hey we've solves 3059 02:19:11,169 --> 02:19:06,199 all the problems then so basically we 3060 02:19:14,019 --> 02:19:11,179 need to lose weight as we get older work 3061 02:19:15,819 --> 02:19:14,029 out you know what we can start a new 3062 02:19:19,179 --> 02:19:15,829 show called the workout show the power 3063 02:19:22,479 --> 02:19:19,189 cast workout show and we can find power 3064 02:19:24,669 --> 02:19:22,489 normal ways to increase one's health and 3065 02:19:25,661 --> 02:19:24,679 increase your physical fitness you know 3066 02:19:28,150 --> 02:19:25,671 you want to be 3067 02:19:31,150 --> 02:19:28,160 as they say ripped as they say in the 3068 02:19:32,621 --> 02:19:31,160 modern vernacular well Aaron's ripping 3069 02:19:34,331 --> 02:19:32,631 me a new one on this one boy I'll tell 3070 02:19:34,690 --> 02:19:34,341 you Aaron you got to send me your book 3071 02:19:36,880 --> 02:19:34,700 buddy 3072 02:19:39,371 --> 02:19:36,890 and I want to get you back on and and 3073 02:19:41,741 --> 02:19:39,381 ask some some intelligent probing 3074 02:19:43,390 --> 02:19:41,751 questions I won't do the letter it's 3075 02:19:47,560 --> 02:19:43,400 nothing you've heard before I warned you 3076 02:19:49,150 --> 02:19:47,570 you did like I said I really love 3077 02:19:52,121 --> 02:19:49,160 creative thinking I love it when people 3078 02:19:55,720 --> 02:19:52,131 together that you know fact factoids and 3079 02:19:59,831 --> 02:19:55,730 in in conjecture and put them to you 3080 02:20:01,631 --> 02:19:59,841 know factoids and in conjecture and put 3081 02:20:04,991 --> 02:20:01,641 in together into a nice cool theory and 3082 02:20:06,911 --> 02:20:05,001 you've done that it's been quite a 3083 02:20:09,341 --> 02:20:06,921 interesting having you on the show and 3084 02:20:11,381 --> 02:20:09,351 like I said I'd love to get more up to 3085 02:20:13,121 --> 02:20:11,391 speed on your thinking obviously you 3086 02:20:14,650 --> 02:20:13,131 have a very complicated scenario here 3087 02:20:18,121 --> 02:20:14,660 that we couldn't possibly cover in two 3088 02:20:20,100 --> 02:20:18,131 hours so this has been this has been 3089 02:20:22,511 --> 02:20:20,110 interesting to say the least 3090 02:20:25,060 --> 02:20:22,521 Aaron tell our listeners where they can 3091 02:20:27,400 --> 02:20:25,070 find more information about your book 3092 02:20:29,741 --> 02:20:27,410 and your work well just google it and 3093 02:20:34,060 --> 02:20:29,751 deep analysis priding conclusion or go 3094 02:20:36,850 --> 02:20:34,070 to or and my website directly one name 3095 02:20:40,001 --> 02:20:36,860 deep analysis parada conclusion one name 3096 02:20:42,371 --> 02:20:40,011 and final website okay Aaron just 3097 02:20:45,220 --> 02:20:42,381 another couple of quick questions here 3098 02:20:47,261 --> 02:20:45,230 this book did you publish it yourself 3099 02:20:48,690 --> 02:20:47,271 would you have someone publish it for 3100 02:20:51,400 --> 02:20:48,700 you 3101 02:20:58,871 --> 02:20:51,410 publications is that one of these self 3102 02:21:01,301 --> 02:20:58,881 publishers or what libres start to the 3103 02:21:03,011 --> 02:21:01,311 next suger's libres okay so they 3104 02:21:06,461 --> 02:21:03,021 published it you didn't pay them to 3105 02:21:09,060 --> 02:21:06,471 publish this book okay so it's self 3106 02:21:13,390 --> 02:21:11,321 okay now this one clarified for 3107 02:21:16,511 --> 02:21:13,400 everybody this is self for the self 3108 02:21:19,781 --> 02:21:16,521 publishing outfit you paid this company 3109 02:21:22,301 --> 02:21:19,791 to publish your book to print a certain 3110 02:21:24,220 --> 02:21:22,311 number of copies or is it on demand 3111 02:21:27,251 --> 02:21:24,230 where they just print it whenever you 3112 02:21:29,251 --> 02:21:27,261 need to buy some the self 3113 02:21:31,810 --> 02:21:29,261 okay so it's an on demand kind of place 3114 02:21:37,331 --> 02:21:31,820 now that you try to submit this book to 3115 02:21:40,080 --> 02:21:37,341 regular publishers or what they would do 3116 02:21:42,780 --> 02:21:40,090 originally the right terms I 3117 02:21:43,950 --> 02:21:42,790 okay you felt if you do it yourself you 3118 02:21:45,090 --> 02:21:43,960 have controlled you have someone added 3119 02:21:47,400 --> 02:21:45,100 the book or did you do all that yourself 3120 02:21:49,200 --> 02:21:47,410 well I did the basic editing Nemo wise 3121 02:21:50,280 --> 02:21:49,210 and they really did most amazing they're 3122 02:21:52,800 --> 02:21:50,290 pretty good very good 3123 02:21:55,530 --> 02:21:52,810 okay so again the book is called deep 3124 02:21:56,670 --> 02:21:55,540 analysis frightening conclusion the 3125 02:21:59,550 --> 02:21:56,680 author yeah 3126 02:22:01,469 --> 02:21:59,560 the author is Aaron Kaplan and I say 3127 02:22:03,900 --> 02:22:01,479 there's no relationship even though he 3128 02:22:06,120 --> 02:22:03,910 has the same name as my wife's maiden 3129 02:22:07,710 --> 02:22:06,130 name and I didn't know him when I went 3130 02:22:08,400 --> 02:22:07,720 to Tilden High School in Brooklyn so 3131 02:22:10,950 --> 02:22:08,410 there you go 3132 02:22:13,320 --> 02:22:10,960 Aaron Kaplan thank you so much for 3133 02:22:16,380 --> 02:22:13,330 joining us this week on the power cast 3134 02:22:18,660 --> 02:22:16,390 if you have a comment or a question send 3135 02:22:21,330 --> 02:22:18,670 it to News at the power cast com 3136 02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:21,340 that's news of the power cast calm and 3137 02:22:24,540 --> 02:22:23,110 that's not all neighbors we've got a 3138 02:22:32,670 --> 02:22:24,550 postgame wrap-up 3139 02:22:35,250 --> 02:22:32,680 coming up next you're in America's are 3140 02:22:38,340 --> 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ten minutes 3251 02:27:07,170 --> 02:27:05,080 commenting on it not all the comments 3252 02:27:10,230 --> 02:27:07,180 were favorable well kind of come in do 3253 02:27:12,719 --> 02:27:10,240 you expect this time but listen oh my 3254 02:27:16,139 --> 02:27:12,729 god is your head spinning yet did you 3255 02:27:18,540 --> 02:27:16,149 take off the propeller gene yes was that 3256 02:27:20,969 --> 02:27:18,550 you know I think I have a propeller on 3257 02:27:21,960 --> 02:27:20,979 my head let me just see excuse me ladies 3258 02:27:24,480 --> 02:27:21,970 and gentlemen I think there's a 3259 02:27:26,580 --> 02:27:24,490 propeller on my head no there's not it's 3260 02:27:28,260 --> 02:27:26,590 just my regular head there I have to 3261 02:27:31,080 --> 02:27:28,270 tell you something we've been doing the 3262 02:27:33,179 --> 02:27:31,090 power cast now for what five and a half 3263 02:27:35,010 --> 02:27:33,189 years and you know we've had some pretty 3264 02:27:38,130 --> 02:27:35,020 wacky guess I'll tell you one we had 3265 02:27:42,210 --> 02:27:38,140 back in the early days Erik Julian all 3266 02:27:44,070 --> 02:27:42,220 about extraterrestrial science okay and 3267 02:27:46,650 --> 02:27:44,080 we try to get him to explain his 3268 02:27:48,599 --> 02:27:46,660 extraterrestrial science and we went on 3269 02:27:51,270 --> 02:27:48,609 for about an hour or so and I have to 3270 02:27:53,849 --> 02:27:51,280 tell you he could not explain it now 3271 02:27:55,110 --> 02:27:53,859 with this particular book we don't have 3272 02:27:57,150 --> 02:27:55,120 a copy of the book I don't know if I'm 3273 02:27:58,440 --> 02:27:57,160 ready to read it as a matter of fact you 3274 02:28:01,590 --> 02:27:58,450 know normally I'm happy to read a book 3275 02:28:05,130 --> 02:28:01,600 before or after a show but there are 3276 02:28:06,810 --> 02:28:05,140 four sample pages of deep analysis 3277 02:28:11,160 --> 02:28:06,820 frightening conclusion on his website 3278 02:28:13,080 --> 02:28:11,170 and if you're confused by what 3279 02:28:15,150 --> 02:28:13,090 said here ladies and gentlemen read 3280 02:28:19,380 --> 02:28:15,160 those four pages and you'll be dizzy oh 3281 02:28:21,330 --> 02:28:19,390 my he contacted us right please tell me 3282 02:28:24,719 --> 02:28:21,340 that's the case and this wasn't one of 3283 02:28:26,700 --> 02:28:24,729 your guest suggestions Jane I promise 3284 02:28:28,260 --> 02:28:26,710 you we do have guest suggestions on the 3285 02:28:30,990 --> 02:28:28,270 show okay yeah 3286 02:28:34,590 --> 02:28:31,000 we have book publishers who contact us 3287 02:28:38,460 --> 02:28:34,600 and they say they have a book they offer 3288 02:28:42,719 --> 02:28:38,470 to send us a copy and maybe have the 3289 02:28:46,500 --> 02:28:42,729 author on but I got this letter from 3290 02:28:48,780 --> 02:28:46,510 Aaron where he describes the book and he 3291 02:28:51,240 --> 02:28:48,790 says we never gotten to this because 3292 02:28:54,030 --> 02:28:51,250 everything else was so confusing he says 3293 02:28:57,210 --> 02:28:54,040 I also have positive proof on which 3294 02:28:59,310 --> 02:28:57,220 group of so-called aliens was performing 3295 02:29:02,969 --> 02:28:59,320 the abductions of us humans not maybe 3296 02:29:06,870 --> 02:29:02,979 but exactly yes an exact answer now I 3297 02:29:11,040 --> 02:29:06,880 have to tell you we have been asking for 3298 02:29:14,640 --> 02:29:11,050 an exact answer and nothing he said on 3299 02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:14,650 this show provides an exact answer now 3300 02:29:19,500 --> 02:29:17,200 he says this here in his letter you've 3301 02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:19,510 never heard this before no we're the 3302 02:29:23,160 --> 02:29:21,610 world's best kept secret that's part of 3303 02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:23,170 his writing style by the way he writes 3304 02:29:28,380 --> 02:29:25,090 in phrases rather than whole sentences 3305 02:29:30,120 --> 02:29:28,390 I agree we've never heard this before it 3306 02:29:33,030 --> 02:29:30,130 may be the world's best kept secret but 3307 02:29:36,480 --> 02:29:33,040 he can't prove any of it well I'm just 3308 02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:36,490 I'm slackjaw Jean are you gobsmacked I'm 3309 02:29:44,280 --> 02:29:40,210 slack-jawed gobsmacked and mightily 3310 02:29:45,630 --> 02:29:44,290 perplexed and confused I love creative 3311 02:29:47,370 --> 02:29:45,640 thinking I really do and I meant it when 3312 02:29:49,590 --> 02:29:47,380 I told him that did this I mean the guy 3313 02:29:51,870 --> 02:29:49,600 obviously has really put a lot of 3314 02:29:54,170 --> 02:29:51,880 thought into this but boy if you want to 3315 02:29:57,030 --> 02:29:54,180 be taken seriously you've got to do your 3316 02:29:59,670 --> 02:29:57,040 legwork and you know your answer is well 3317 02:30:01,230 --> 02:29:59,680 the government doesn't want you to know 3318 02:30:02,310 --> 02:30:01,240 so there's no way that you can prove any 3319 02:30:06,510 --> 02:30:02,320 of this whoa 3320 02:30:08,910 --> 02:30:06,520 then then why even try it's you know it 3321 02:30:11,429 --> 02:30:08,920 just doesn't it just doesn't wash too 3322 02:30:13,650 --> 02:30:11,439 you know just your standard objective 3323 02:30:15,330 --> 02:30:13,660 person listening to this stuff it just 3324 02:30:17,969 --> 02:30:15,340 doesn't wash you know it's very 3325 02:30:19,650 --> 02:30:17,979 interesting here the thing that bothers 3326 02:30:22,020 --> 02:30:19,660 me about this is he claims to have the 3327 02:30:24,930 --> 02:30:22,030 proof but then when you try to pin him 3328 02:30:26,430 --> 02:30:24,940 down he quotes all sorts of separate 3329 02:30:28,831 --> 02:30:26,440 sources that seem to have very little 3330 02:30:30,150 --> 02:30:28,841 meaning or credibility and this is old 3331 02:30:31,950 --> 02:30:30,160 the government is hiding it well if the 3332 02:30:33,270 --> 02:30:31,960 government is hiding it that means you 3333 02:30:35,791 --> 02:30:33,280 don't have the evidence to prove it 3334 02:30:38,520 --> 02:30:35,801 you're just talking for your hat well I 3335 02:30:41,011 --> 02:30:38,530 did find no reference to the Ethel you 3336 02:30:43,711 --> 02:30:41,021 know the Rosenberg trial and warships of 3337 02:30:47,810 --> 02:30:43,721 space and like I told him it was from a 3338 02:30:49,980 --> 02:30:47,820 website called what I said lunatic for 3339 02:30:51,900 --> 02:30:49,990 something like that right of course I 3340 02:30:55,230 --> 02:30:51,910 mean if you go online you'll find all 3341 02:30:59,850 --> 02:30:55,240 sorts of wacky theories I'm surprised he 3342 02:31:02,310 --> 02:30:59,860 didn't start quoting Branton gosh we've 3343 02:31:04,801 --> 02:31:02,320 had some pretty crazy people on the para 3344 02:31:06,990 --> 02:31:04,811 Cass I mentioned Eric Julian I also 3345 02:31:09,390 --> 02:31:07,000 mentioned somebody who came on for a 3346 02:31:11,791 --> 02:31:09,400 show about the alien interview where is 3347 02:31:13,831 --> 02:31:11,801 this nurse who was supposedly involved 3348 02:31:16,261 --> 02:31:13,841 in the Roswell case out of the blue 3349 02:31:18,841 --> 02:31:16,271 sends this guy a Scientologist by the 3350 02:31:21,511 --> 02:31:18,851 way this manuscript about her 3351 02:31:23,461 --> 02:31:21,521 interactions with et now you may have 3352 02:31:26,100 --> 02:31:23,471 heard this show Chris this was back 3353 02:31:30,661 --> 02:31:26,110 several years ago it seemed what he did 3354 02:31:32,700 --> 02:31:30,671 was he burned the manuscript I never 3355 02:31:37,171 --> 02:31:32,710 could get him to explain why but I did 3356 02:31:40,051 --> 02:31:37,181 get him to agree to post a PDF copy of 3357 02:31:41,700 --> 02:31:40,061 his book in our forums and I have a 3358 02:31:44,041 --> 02:31:41,710 feeling he got more circulation from 3359 02:31:46,621 --> 02:31:44,051 that than anywhere else now as a result 3360 02:31:50,400 --> 02:31:46,631 I asked Erin if we would have permission 3361 02:31:52,890 --> 02:31:50,410 to post a PDF version of his book on the 3362 02:31:56,280 --> 02:31:52,900 para caste forums and guess what he said 3363 02:32:00,541 --> 02:31:56,290 yes so right now if you go to forum dot 3364 02:32:03,270 --> 02:32:00,551 Lapera cast calm you could find your 3365 02:32:06,360 --> 02:32:03,280 free copy of Aaron Kaplan's book 3366 02:32:08,341 --> 02:32:06,370 assuming of course that you care about 3367 02:32:12,301 --> 02:32:08,351 reading a copy of the book and if you do 3368 02:32:16,051 --> 02:32:12,311 we have it posted in our forums and the 3369 02:32:19,171 --> 02:32:16,061 thread is listed this way download deep 3370 02:32:21,030 --> 02:32:19,181 analysis frightening conclusion by aaron 3371 02:32:23,911 --> 02:32:21,040 kaplan you'll find it in our general 3372 02:32:26,881 --> 02:32:23,921 free willing chitchat forum at forum dot 3373 02:32:28,850 --> 02:32:26,891 the para cass calm it's a free download 3374 02:32:31,621 --> 02:32:28,860 and certainly right now i don't know 3375 02:32:34,261 --> 02:32:31,631 what purpose is served chris and having 3376 02:32:35,650 --> 02:32:34,271 him on again tell me well i again i was 3377 02:32:38,620 --> 02:32:35,660 trying to be made 3378 02:32:40,420 --> 02:32:38,630 in kind I you know I want to give the 3379 02:32:42,429 --> 02:32:40,430 guy a fair shake I haven't read his book 3380 02:32:44,260 --> 02:32:42,439 I have a feeling it's gonna be difficult 3381 02:32:46,780 --> 02:32:44,270 to get through if he writes and phrases 3382 02:32:49,690 --> 02:32:46,790 but you know again I I do like creative 3383 02:32:51,580 --> 02:32:49,700 thinking I will entertain give somebody 3384 02:32:53,260 --> 02:32:51,590 more than enough rope to hang themselves 3385 02:32:55,780 --> 02:32:53,270 with any particular you know 3386 02:32:57,820 --> 02:32:55,790 conglomerate theory but I don't know I I 3387 02:33:00,820 --> 02:32:57,830 just you know I'm kind of of a mind 3388 02:33:03,250 --> 02:33:00,830 maybe to attempt to try to read the book 3389 02:33:04,960 --> 02:33:03,260 but you know I think it's an interesting 3390 02:33:08,410 --> 02:33:04,970 approach it's an interesting concept 3391 02:33:09,969 --> 02:33:08,420 it's it's like pop culture gone wild you 3392 02:33:12,969 --> 02:33:09,979 know I don't know it's I guess it's fun 3393 02:33:14,710 --> 02:33:12,979 to have some of our more different 3394 02:33:16,810 --> 02:33:14,720 guests on from time to time like Aaron 3395 02:33:18,670 --> 02:33:16,820 he's he's he's quite a piece of work I 3396 02:33:20,230 --> 02:33:18,680 meant to ask him if he has a sister 3397 02:33:22,360 --> 02:33:20,240 named Esther because if he does I'd like 3398 02:33:24,730 --> 02:33:22,370 love to get her number she was a little 3399 02:33:27,639 --> 02:33:24,740 hottie oh okay well how old would she be 3400 02:33:30,280 --> 02:33:27,649 now Esther she's my age I mean we went 3401 02:33:31,980 --> 02:33:30,290 to college together and dated for a 3402 02:33:36,010 --> 02:33:31,990 while and then I lost track of urban 3403 02:33:37,929 --> 02:33:36,020 esta esta Kaplan well I tell ya it was 3404 02:33:39,250 --> 02:33:37,939 so curious you know I was only curious 3405 02:33:42,160 --> 02:33:39,260 really I'm serious 3406 02:33:45,070 --> 02:33:42,170 I was curious because here's a guy who 3407 02:33:46,510 --> 02:33:45,080 grew up in the same area I grew up some 3408 02:33:49,090 --> 02:33:46,520 years apart went to the same high school 3409 02:33:50,980 --> 02:33:49,100 and it looks like he attended some of 3410 02:33:53,800 --> 02:33:50,990 those meetings in New York of various 3411 02:33:55,360 --> 02:33:53,810 UFO organizations but I think we really 3412 02:33:57,880 --> 02:33:55,370 caught him there at the beginning when 3413 02:34:00,910 --> 02:33:57,890 he was trying to say this to movies 3414 02:34:03,790 --> 02:34:00,920 these two movies showing the Bermuda 3415 02:34:05,800 --> 02:34:03,800 Triangle and allegedly the actual 3416 02:34:07,330 --> 02:34:05,810 Roswell crash if I take it correctly 3417 02:34:08,950 --> 02:34:07,340 well yeah and he said something by eight 3418 02:34:10,660 --> 02:34:08,960 or nine objects to that's first I've 3419 02:34:13,420 --> 02:34:10,670 ever heard of that yeah and it looks 3420 02:34:14,980 --> 02:34:13,430 like he was first trying to say yes it 3421 02:34:17,889 --> 02:34:14,990 must have been Jim Mosley's and meetings 3422 02:34:20,889 --> 02:34:17,899 but having been at those meetings I was 3423 02:34:23,139 --> 02:34:20,899 able to expose that I think you know the 3424 02:34:26,139 --> 02:34:23,149 guy is having fun you know he has a 3425 02:34:28,900 --> 02:34:26,149 bubbly personality I think he's enjoying 3426 02:34:30,969 --> 02:34:28,910 himself I think that he doesn't take it 3427 02:34:33,700 --> 02:34:30,979 any more seriously than you or I do I 3428 02:34:35,139 --> 02:34:33,710 think he was just writing a book just to 3429 02:34:37,330 --> 02:34:35,149 have fun and see what people thought 3430 02:34:40,300 --> 02:34:37,340 about it that's why he didn't seek a 3431 02:34:41,980 --> 02:34:40,310 real publisher he did it himself and I 3432 02:34:43,510 --> 02:34:41,990 think if you're going to go that route 3433 02:34:46,780 --> 02:34:43,520 and I understand there's reasons for 3434 02:34:49,360 --> 02:34:46,790 that because publishers really you know 3435 02:34:51,700 --> 02:34:49,370 the book is the biography off the rise 3436 02:34:53,770 --> 02:34:51,710 of Steve Jobs you know they're not going 3437 02:34:56,020 --> 02:34:53,780 to publish it and even if you have 3438 02:34:57,430 --> 02:34:56,030 someone a smaller publisher say 3439 02:34:59,200 --> 02:34:57,440 anomalous books or someone like that 3440 02:35:00,280 --> 02:34:59,210 take your book you're not going to make 3441 02:35:01,690 --> 02:35:00,290 a lot of money from it 3442 02:35:03,460 --> 02:35:01,700 it's not going to be a best-seller this 3443 02:35:06,250 --> 02:35:03,470 way you have control over distribution 3444 02:35:08,830 --> 02:35:06,260 and everything the problem is he needed 3445 02:35:10,180 --> 02:35:08,840 to have a professional editor and I tell 3446 02:35:11,710 --> 02:35:10,190 you that because I've written books and 3447 02:35:13,800 --> 02:35:11,720 Chris has written a number of books and 3448 02:35:16,630 --> 02:35:13,810 you've got to have a third party 3449 02:35:18,700 --> 02:35:16,640 knowledgeable go over your manuscript 3450 02:35:21,820 --> 02:35:18,710 clean it up make it better for 3451 02:35:24,190 --> 02:35:21,830 publication don't you agree oh boy do I 3452 02:35:25,840 --> 02:35:24,200 so you know that's where it goes it 3453 02:35:27,970 --> 02:35:25,850 doesn't mean how good a writer you are I 3454 02:35:29,560 --> 02:35:27,980 think human no Anthony Sanchez should 3455 02:35:30,940 --> 02:35:29,570 get together and compare notes I bet you 3456 02:35:32,261 --> 02:35:30,950 they could dovetail their stories 3457 02:35:35,140 --> 02:35:32,271 together and come up with a really 3458 02:35:37,150 --> 02:35:35,150 interesting sequel oh yeah this is gonna 3459 02:35:38,890 --> 02:35:37,160 be fascinating this is gonna be 3460 02:35:41,020 --> 02:35:38,900 something that you can't believe what 3461 02:35:43,180 --> 02:35:41,030 kind of sequel we'll have or maybe you 3462 02:35:45,490 --> 02:35:43,190 know what he'll do is maybe a few months 3463 02:35:48,340 --> 02:35:45,500 from now he's gonna come back and say 3464 02:35:51,460 --> 02:35:48,350 hey you know what it was all just a big 3465 02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:51,470 goof I was having fun with you man no I 3466 02:35:55,960 --> 02:35:54,170 think he's serious and you know gene the 3467 02:35:58,780 --> 02:35:55,970 way things are going right now in in 3468 02:36:00,520 --> 02:35:58,790 this whole morass of a field I'll bet 3469 02:36:03,100 --> 02:36:00,530 you the guy'll have his own History 3470 02:36:05,130 --> 02:36:03,110 Channel TV show next year I think maybe 3471 02:36:07,210 --> 02:36:05,140 he's already got his agent working on it 3472 02:36:08,740 --> 02:36:07,220 you know you have to think about that 3473 02:36:10,900 --> 02:36:08,750 you have to think about this Chris 3474 02:36:12,580 --> 02:36:10,910 O'Brien tell our listeners where they 3475 02:36:15,330 --> 02:36:12,590 can find more of the things that you do 3476 02:36:18,790 --> 02:36:15,340 where you do have evidence for something 3477 02:36:22,780 --> 02:36:18,800 well I'm a moderator at forum dr. Peric 3478 02:36:25,450 --> 02:36:22,790 ascom where I do lurk about from time to 3479 02:36:27,910 --> 02:36:25,460 time been super busy lately I have some 3480 02:36:29,950 --> 02:36:27,920 some responses I need to get up there on 3481 02:36:32,350 --> 02:36:29,960 a trickster thread but our strange 3482 02:36:34,630 --> 02:36:32,360 planet is my website and gene this was 3483 02:36:36,400 --> 02:36:34,640 this was one for the for the books 3484 02:36:38,710 --> 02:36:36,410 everybody I just haven't figured out 3485 02:36:41,230 --> 02:36:38,720 which book if you have a comment or a 3486 02:36:41,830 --> 02:36:41,240 question send it to news at the podcast 3487 02:36:46,480 --> 02:36:41,840 calm 3488 02:36:48,070 --> 02:36:46,490 ladies and gentlemen you've heard gene 3489 02:36:50,600 --> 02:36:48,080 Steinberg and Chris O'Brien 3490 02:37:00,400 --> 02:36:50,610 you definitely are in the 3491 02:37:06,831 --> 02:37:03,680 the para cast featuring Jim Steinberg 3492 02:37:09,820 --> 02:37:06,841 and Christopher O'Brien is a copyrighted 3493 02:37:13,551 --> 02:37:09,830 presentation of making the impossible